by liberal japonicus
Some may say it is a false flag, but given that they couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery, I have my doubts. However, from here:
Quite simply, a man who wanted to kill people—many people, maybe me, maybe my colleagues—had checked into the Washington Hilton, just like I had. He had used his access to move from floor 10 to the ballroom lobby, just like I had. And he had left a room which police had closed off, but which for all they feared could now be filled with explosives.
I asked the detective another question. “Do you want to talk to me? I mean, I was next door.”
I gave him my business card, then told him the only things I could think of that might be relevant. I knew when I had checked in. I knew when housekeeping had been in my room in the morning. I had seen no guests in the rooms beside mine at the end of the corridor.
Then I was left incredulous by what he did. The detective said to the Hilton worker, “I need the cleaning logs for the room.”
They hadn’t thought of this? It was almost three hours since I had been lying on a floor, the echo of gunshots in my head.
“We’ll be in touch, sir.”
Irresponsible to speculate? Irresponsible not to!!
I guess I think it was real mostly because the shooter has sacrificed his freedom and risked his life. WOuld anyone do that just to give Trump a chance to play the martyred victim? I think the other one was real too for the same reason. I don’t understand how someone could be talked into shooting at a president (and deliberately missing) as a false flag operation when being arrested or shot was guaranteed. What am I missing?
Well someone explained to me that the incident was fake in the sense that the SS was tipped off, knew he was coming and allowed it to happen so the fake victimhood etc could go on–on the assumption that they could kill or arrest him before there was any actual threat to King Pussygrabber.
it wasn’t fake. it wasn’t a false flag. it wasn’t staged.
there’s no mystery anywhere in anything about this.
i’m deeply ashamed that so many Democrats have decided to go full BlueQ over this.
I agree. The faux outrage and faux victimization and theatricals by Republicans who are enjoying it are all fake, but he was a real wannabe assassin.
I’m with cleek.
It is unfortunately true that there is nothing that unusual about somebody trying to assassinate a sitting POTUS.
I don’t really know enough to have much of an opinion about whether security was lax or not. It seems like it would be kind of hard to lock down an entire hotel, and the Secret Service et al stopped the guy before he could do much harm.
Although it felt very weird (Vance being hustled off the stage before Trump, Trump’s apparent lack of concern), I reluctantly have to agree with cleek, russell and wonkie. The fact that it might improve Trump’s poll numbers before the midterms is just a piece of luck for them – and although it sounds like it, I am not speaking with forked tongue. Let’s face it, almost everything about the current administration feels surreal, weird and unbelievable, why should this be any different?
I don’t think this latest attempt will help anyone’s polling numbers. We are dealing with a wholly dysfunctional media environment. The US public has been signaling its disapproval for a while now, and rather than responding to that input by moderating, the GOP leadership and their propaganda machine have been escalating. This has repeated now enough times that it’s been normalized, and I don’t believe the right has anything more they can get out of this pattern. The growing sense of unrest and urgency comes from the need to see this cycle broken, but I don’t think the current GOP leadership could stay in power if it does break, so I expect this will continue at least until the midterms, after which who knows what happens.
Agreed. There’s simply no way the Republicans currently in Congress can break with Trump without sacrificing their political careers. They’d be primaried, probably successfully, in a heartbeat. And they know it.
After an electoral bloodbath in November (assuming that, as now seems likely, that occurs), their calculations may change. They might figure that distance would help going forward. At least a little distance. Alternatively, they might decide to double down. That would be counterproductive, but nonetheless is what I expect.
they’ll be able to distance themselves from Trump once the Presidential primaries start to shake out and they have a new champion and a new chief villain to focus on. he’ll become increasingly irrelevant (though he won’t like that).
Let’s see, whether the expectation of said bloodbath will harden their will to foist upon the people two new justices to perpetuate the grand guignol that SCOTUS has become for several more decades provided that the two disgraced ones to be replaced will put the project they serve to foster above their own vainglory (and fear of facing justice once they have lost the title of the same that gifts them with immunity).
T’would be a novelty indeed to push that through as lame ducks and as a parting gift.
I belatedly realize that my post sounds like an invitation to engage in pizzagate levels of speculation, which is probably a mistake.
My own take on what exactly it was or was not is who gives a shit. I suppose it would be nice to know exactly what transpired or to know if it was set up with that level of lax security to encourage an event like this. I assume that the people who haven’t decamped have the same sense of control that Trump has or had when he thought that what he did with Maduro could be replicated with the mullahs.
And I have to admit, it flits around in the back of my mind (for example, I really would not want to be King Charles, I could see some Bannon/Miller wannabe thinking they could get the UK on side if Charles were shot by a crazed attacker who wanted to get Trump) and I’m depressed that this is the case, but this is what this administration has generated.
too good not to share
An undocumented Latina child not being available, Stephen Miller uses his pregnant wife as a human shield
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2026/04/strictly-ballroom
Although it felt very weird (Vance being hustled off the stage before Trump, Trump’s apparent lack of concern)…
If you buy into much of the dementia remote diagnosis crowd, which regularly hypothesizes sundowning and a ton of mood-control drugs, this doesn’t seem unusual. Vance would react quickly to the Secret Service agents; Trump would have to be cajoled. One of the pictures that has been posted a lot shows Trump and Melania in an early moment when everyone recognized something was wrong. She looks concerned; he is smiling and mellow.
there were reports from people who were there who said they didn’t hear any shots fired. they thought they heard normal busy hotel noises.
Btw, I am of the opinion that any Dem POTUS candidate should make a pledge to have His Orangeness’ ballroom taken down as quickly as He did the original West Wing once in office and that the bill for the rebuilding of the latter will be sent to the estate of His Orangeness.
Anything mobile inside said ballroom is to be auctioned off and the money used for something worthwhile He hates (like an Epstein victim fond). Or, if that is not possible, for the restoration of the rose garden and the oval office (plus to remedy other aesthetically abominable changes He made).
There is also a need for a constitutional amendment to ban the use of gold leaf and marble in future public building or renovation projects (beyond repairs of already existing structures whose construction pre-dates about 2000)
Oh, and His Orangeness should get a state-paid sky burial (ideally with golden jackals and golden eagles).
It’s abundantly clear that Trump wishes to be a King, so why not give him his wish?
No, not the USA, that’s just crazy talk.
But give Trump sovereignty over Gitmo. But he has to live there.
After a few years of “Don, King of Gitmo”, whisper to the Cubans “not ours any more. have fun”
I always thought retirement in South Georgia would be the right thing for Him and Ras Putin. No, not in the Caucasus or the Southern US but the – very – South Atlantic. Putin – known as an outdoors man – could probably cope. His Orangeness in an old whaler hut would be hell on Earth to him. I think His Majesty Charles III. would be very cooperative in this endeavor. An invitation to a ‘Georgian’ residence with royal food (king penguin and shrimp royale) should be a perfect lure (at least for the USian abomination, Putin would be less easy to fool).
Talking of clusterfucks, I’ve just seen that James Comey has been indicted again, on two counts involving threats to kill Trump, as far as I can understand (hard though it is to believe) to do with the seashells signing “86 47”. I wonder if his yes-men have tried to convince the POTUS that it might not get thrown out this time? And if so, presumably he’s just happy to continue to subject his enemies to vexatious, time-wasting (and expensive?) charges…
Gonna have an interesting time trying to “prove” that it was Comey that arranged that pattern of seashells, rather than just coming across them on the beach and taking a photo.
That’s in addition to “proving” the intent encode in that number.
I hear that “Jenny” showed that she wanted to kill anyone that called her, by having a phone number that was “86 74309” Equally likely.
There’s also the detail (for those who celebrate) that to be 86ed isn’t something fatal. As I understand it, it means getting tossed out of the bar/pub for drunk and disorderly type behaviour.
And so a reasonable person could take it as simply a call to impeach and remove Trump. Which he, admittedly, might consider a fate worse than death. But legally? Definitely on the utter nonsense side of dubious.