My immediate reaction to Trump's "invitation" was... Wait. Did you just invite China to bring their aircraft carrier in, and give them a chance to fly planes around measuring US carriers' premier radar signals, and getting a chance to bounce radar off F-35s? The US very carefully did not deploy F-35s over much of Syria while the Russians were there, because they didn't want the Russians to know what the returns were like.
I suppose this is the best thread to discuss the SAVE America Act. Don l’orange is pushing hard to sign it into law before the midterms.
The version of the SAVE Act that passed the House and has been submitted to the Senate affects registration. The most onerous provisions that Trump rattles off in his social postings -- restrictions on mail-distributed ballots, photo id for in-person voting, etc -- are not in this bill. Thune has already said he doesn't have the votes to dump the filibuster for this bill; some people believe he doesn't have enough votes to pass it even w/o the filibuster. As for Trump's demands, I don't think either Thune or Johnson have the votes to pass something that requires state/local Republicans to implement a new voting system on the fly, in a very short period, sans funding.
Spanish tends to use about a third more words than English to express the same thing.
My graduate school roommate was getting a PhD in linguistics. He talked about Spanish being a "full duplex language", meaning that the information density was low enough it was possible (at least in casual conversation) to talk and listen at the same time. English was dense enough it was a "half duplex language" where you could listen, or talk, but not both simultaneously. His dissertation topic was going to be on cultural ramifications of that difference.
Back when I was in grad school, and looking to test out of German for the language requirement, I did a literal translation first**, and used that to do a free translation. Because what was wanted was to demonstrate understanding of the article being translated.
In basic modern algebra, many of the structures are named using words for common items: group, ring, field, etc. In German, the same sort of convention is used but not all of the common terms are the same as the ones used in English. I had to do a final project translating a chapter from a German college math text. I put a cover note on it for the instructor pointing out that I knew der Körper translated to body in general use, but the structure it was used for was called a field in English.
Just idle curiosity, but I wondered what did the translation:
In short, the position of the Government of Spain can be summed up in four words: no to war.
What caught my eye was the obvious inconsistency of referring to a three-word phrase as four words. Dumping the statement into different tools produced either "no to war" or "no to the war". In English there's a subtle difference in the meaning of those. I don't speak Spanish, so don't know if there's the same article vs no article thing (and the original has an article).
And completely off topic, the one thing I regret about my education choices over the years is spending four semesters on German in college. Four of Spanish would have been much more valuable for me, in practice. Unfortunately, at that time and place and my majors, the College would only let me count German or Russian.
I know it says Texas, but in Montana... Daines, the incumbent US Senator up for reelection this year withdrew from the Republican primary today. The US Attorney for Montana filed for the Republican Senate primary at the last minute. Sheehy, the other Republican US Senator from Montana reportedly broke the hand of a uniformed Marine veteran as the vet was removed from a committee hearing room this afternoon.
Not sure, but hasn’t Congress passed a law to forbid the president to do that (i.e. rendering US citizens to foreign courts, the ICC in particular)?
The ICC's jurisdiction is restricted to crimes committed in places under the jurisdiction of countries that are bound by the treaty that set up the court. The US is not a signatory, so is unlikely to extradite a US citizen. Iran has signed, but not ratified, the treaty.
Extradition to individual foreign countries is controlled by individual bilateral treaties. The US has treaties with something over a hundred countries. Dual criminality is a keystone -- whatever crime the individual is charged with has to also be a crime in the US. This creates headaches for the US sometimes, as "conspiracy" is not a crime in many countries. Eg, Julian Assange was extradited to the US on relatively minor charges -- the big charges were all conspiracy. And of course, under a recent SCOTUS decision, it appears that all acts committed by a US President are lawful.
As for Anthropic specifically, I’m not up on the details, either of Anthropic’s history or this specific spat. But if Hegseth is upset, that strongly suggests that Anthropic is on the side of the angels, at least on this one.
I believe the line Anthropic (and OpenAI too, I think) have drawn is at autonomous killing machines at a retail level. "Retail" meaning the AI has decided this person is an enemy combatant that should be killed, and that person is not. I may have missed something, but they don't seem as opposed to wholesale level stuff, as in the AI has decided this is a Chinese landing ship with 1,000 marines attacking Taiwan, or not.
And now they are trying to bury us in carbon on top of that by consuming as much energy as a small city.
I would have said medium-sized. The four cities served by my local power authority have a combined population of 354000. If we were one city, that would put us at 55th on the US list. During peak summer usage, the four cities occasionally draw 600 MW. The new data center complex being built up the road from us in Cheyenne, WY will draw 1,200 MW almost continuously when finished.
I donated blood yesterday. The phlebotomist felt around the scar tissue for a whole, then asked, "Is it okay with you if I use the vein over here?" pointing about an inch away. That worked out well, since the undamaged vein stopped quickly when the needle was pulled. The vein with all the scar tissue can be reluctant to stop.
Partly because of wj's example, I signed up to be an election judge. The county only has the one job title, but it covers positions with all sorts of part-time assignments (everything from collecting from the mail ballot drop boxes to face-to-face stuff at the vote centers to working in the counting bunker). I won't know what they'll need until closer to the primaries. "Job title" is intentional; they don't use unpaid volunteers.
Earlier this afternoon California's CAISO electricity supply was >75% renewables; Texas' ERCOT was >65% renewables; my local power authority was nearly 100% renewables. The local PA was also running a bunch of excess coal and even natural gas. We're having another wind event. My understanding is that excess is because someone else in the region has lost a transmission line and we're the backup (coal for bulk power, NG for frequency control).
And general lack of basic respect for women as people, regardless of age.
When I was 26 or 27, I dropped out of a Bell Labs racquetball league because I couldn't stand listening to the locker room verbal mistreatment highly-educated men aimed at their female colleagues. Women with MS and PhD degrees, some of whom significantly outperformed** those same men in technical jobs, were spoken about as if they were subhuman.
** I had already been put into a mentor position, and had limited access to people's performance reviews.
All of the major rating firms -- Fitch, Moody's, S&P, etc -- rated CDOs based on subprime mortgages as high-quality investment-grade paper. During hearings on the subprime crisis, the US Senate heard testimony from multiple experts recommending that none of those firms should ever be allowed to rate CDOs in the future. I am somewhat more vindictive -- send a serious message and just put them out of business entirely.
The Economist has stayed the course much better than some other major publications that have drifted from journalism to viewpoint advocacy.
I dropped my subscription when they went full cheerleader for the Iraq War. They were even more enthusiastic and optimistic than the Bush administration was.
Where all of this will fail across the US, is on "You let me cheat on my taxes by $10M every year, and you're going to draw a line at sex with 17-year-old?" That this will be largely successful is very depressing to me, even before we get to my granddaughters.
now Stinky says he’s going to do a 10% global tariff.
But no more, anywhere? Last month BYD filed suit at the US Court of International Trade challenging much higher tariffs than that on their EVs. If the tariff on compact EVs is reduced to 10%, they'll be opening dealerships tomorrow and dominating EV sales by next year. I claim there is an enormous unmet demand for well-built compact EVs priced at $20k, and BYD can meet it.
Oddly, to me, all of this blather comes in the context of the US basically telling Europe to fuck off. Which seems… inconsistent with an emphasis on “preserving our Western identity”.
Miller and Trump are trying to build Fortress America, which will include big doses of misogyny, racism, and unrestricted Gilded Age capitalism. They think Europe ought to be building Fortress Europe along the same lines, without an American military presence. (Yes, the transition looks a lot like "f*ck off".) "Preserving our Western identity" means we were on the same side during the Cold War. Seriously, they're not thinking any farther back in history than that.
Elsewhere, I was in a discussion about the power requirements for an AGI that can handle all the things a humanoid robot will be asked to do. Current estimates are the human brain is roughly the equivalent of an exaflop processor. Germany recently fired up their new exaflop supercomputer, which is the most power efficient in the world. It draws 18.2 megaWatts (and the hardware takes up ~120 racks). I anticipate that a humanoid robot that can properly execute an order like "Go through the house, collect all the dirty dishes, load them into the dishwasher, and run it" will be a fancy peripheral for a closet full of computer gear drawing more power than the entire rest of the house.
On Wednesday this week, Trump signed an executive order that requires the Dept of Defense -- excuse me, Dept of War -- to sign long-term power purchase agreements with coal-fired power plants to provide power for military bases to keep those plants running. Separately, that the Dept of Energy will provide at least $175M for maintaining and upgrading coal-fired power plants in Appalachia. The EO includes a provision that the PPAs cannot infringe on the authority of other executive branch agencies. I have SO many questions about how they're going to make this work within the constraints set by FERC.
My in-laws in Colorado on the other side of the divide are freaking out about the lack of water and snowpack, too.
The problems west of the Divide make the ones to the east look fairly moderate. Snow timing has changed just in the almost 40 years I've lived here now. Having April snow bail us out has become a fairly regular occurrence. Not so much on the west side.
If you’ve ever done farm work (I have) you can certainly see why not. Not that it makes me sympathetic.
Makes me recall a now-humorous memory. One summer my father sent me to spend a week with one of his cousins who owned a family farm. What did I get from that week? A life-long determination to acquire skills that would let me work in a climate-controlled environment where I didn't have to lift heavy things. Or put my fingers in the near neighborhood of rotary machinery with blades and no safety cover.
GA tried making it actually illegal to hire illegals, and it was a disaster.
Many years back now, the Colorado General Assembly was considering a bill, introduced by rural Republican members, that was basically a license for the sheriffs' departments in rural counties to hassle short brown ag workers. Once word got out, the eastern plains wheat farmers began getting calls from the custom cutters** saying they were just going to skip Colorado if the bill passed. Typically something like, "All my crews are legal, but I'm not going to put them at the mercy of your sheriff's asshole deputies." The bill died.
** Custom cutters are groups with one or more big combines and a bunch of trucks who harvest vast wheat fields when they're ripe. It's migratory work, starting in Texas and moving north as the summer progresses. Really erratic work. If it rains you can't harvest, and sometimes getting the job done in time means working by headlights all night long. Farmers, or even small groups of farmers, can't afford big combines. These days, some of them go for $500,000 or higher.
It's possible that it's as simple as something like Xi asking, "What have you learned from Russia-Ukraine that will make our takeover of Taiwan less costly?" And didn't like the answer.
...will have to decide whether and on what terms they want to work with an economically dominant China on the climate problem.
Here's the fuel mix for my pissant little non-profit local power authority for the last 24 hours. 20 years ago it was, except for the same amount of hydro, all fossil fuels. The wind is from turbines built somewhere in the US. The solar is from panels built in Georgia. Another 100MW of solar comes online late this year, along with a 100MW 400MWh battery system. The batteries are from a Korean company's US plant. For coal, 100MW is the minimum plant output that still allows for a warm start. The wholly-owned coal plant's power is as cheap as the wind or solar because local circumstances, so gets dispatched by the balancing authority.
Despite Trump's efforts, there are still things going on in the US, even if we aren't leading.
Some counties and cities (e.g. Hennepin County and Minneapolis) were not. They release them into the public sphere rather than cooperate. Now the AG (Keith Ellison) doubled down, issuing an opinion that honoring detainers violates Minnesota law, even when there is an agreement with the feds (287(g) agreements).
1) The 287(g) agreements -- Hennepin County doesn't have one -- state explicitly that the state/local authority is responsible for the costs of jailing detainees until ICE gets around to picking them up. As I read the MOA document, that responsibility is open-ended: ICE does not guarantee how quickly they will come get the detainee. At least in recent history, ICE/CBP has refused to reimburse any local authorities, 287(g) agreement or not.
2) In some states there are explicit laws that forbid spending state/county moneys to enforce federal law. Arguably, holding someone beyond when they would have been otherwise released only because of an ICE/CBP detainer request violates such laws, at least w/o reimbursement.
3) SCOTUS case law says that the choice is up to the state/local authority. The feds can't require state/local authorities to spend state/local money enforcing federal law.
4) At least in my state, rural counties tend to have surplus jail cells and non-rural counties do not. Elsewhere, there are extreme cases. There was a huge fuss when it turned out LA County was releasing some famous people who got 30-day sentences after one night in jail. As it turned out, LA County was in the situation that to create space for people who would be sentenced today, each morning they released anyone who had less than 30 days left on their sentence. You didn't have to be famous for 30 days to mean overnight.
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On “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran”
My immediate reaction to Trump's "invitation" was... Wait. Did you just invite China to bring their aircraft carrier in, and give them a chance to fly planes around measuring US carriers' premier radar signals, and getting a chance to bounce radar off F-35s? The US very carefully did not deploy F-35s over much of Syria while the Russians were there, because they didn't want the Russians to know what the returns were like.
On “The ides of Texas”
I suppose this is the best thread to discuss the SAVE America Act. Don l’orange is pushing hard to sign it into law before the midterms.
The version of the SAVE Act that passed the House and has been submitted to the Senate affects registration. The most onerous provisions that Trump rattles off in his social postings -- restrictions on mail-distributed ballots, photo id for in-person voting, etc -- are not in this bill. Thune has already said he doesn't have the votes to dump the filibuster for this bill; some people believe he doesn't have enough votes to pass it even w/o the filibuster. As for Trump's demands, I don't think either Thune or Johnson have the votes to pass something that requires state/local Republicans to implement a new voting system on the fly, in a very short period, sans funding.
On “A little language practice”
Spanish tends to use about a third more words than English to express the same thing.
My graduate school roommate was getting a PhD in linguistics. He talked about Spanish being a "full duplex language", meaning that the information density was low enough it was possible (at least in casual conversation) to talk and listen at the same time. English was dense enough it was a "half duplex language" where you could listen, or talk, but not both simultaneously. His dissertation topic was going to be on cultural ramifications of that difference.
"
Back when I was in grad school, and looking to test out of German for the language requirement, I did a literal translation first**, and used that to do a free translation. Because what was wanted was to demonstrate understanding of the article being translated.
In basic modern algebra, many of the structures are named using words for common items: group, ring, field, etc. In German, the same sort of convention is used but not all of the common terms are the same as the ones used in English. I had to do a final project translating a chapter from a German college math text. I put a cover note on it for the instructor pointing out that I knew der Körper translated to body in general use, but the structure it was used for was called a field in English.
"
Just idle curiosity, but I wondered what did the translation:
What caught my eye was the obvious inconsistency of referring to a three-word phrase as four words. Dumping the statement into different tools produced either "no to war" or "no to the war". In English there's a subtle difference in the meaning of those. I don't speak Spanish, so don't know if there's the same article vs no article thing (and the original has an article).
And completely off topic, the one thing I regret about my education choices over the years is spending four semesters on German in college. Four of Spanish would have been much more valuable for me, in practice. Unfortunately, at that time and place and my majors, the College would only let me count German or Russian.
On “The ides of Texas”
I know it says Texas, but in Montana... Daines, the incumbent US Senator up for reelection this year withdrew from the Republican primary today. The US Attorney for Montana filed for the Republican Senate primary at the last minute. Sheehy, the other Republican US Senator from Montana reportedly broke the hand of a uniformed Marine veteran as the vet was removed from a committee hearing room this afternoon.
On “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran”
Not sure, but hasn’t Congress passed a law to forbid the president to do that (i.e. rendering US citizens to foreign courts, the ICC in particular)?
The ICC's jurisdiction is restricted to crimes committed in places under the jurisdiction of countries that are bound by the treaty that set up the court. The US is not a signatory, so is unlikely to extradite a US citizen. Iran has signed, but not ratified, the treaty.
Extradition to individual foreign countries is controlled by individual bilateral treaties. The US has treaties with something over a hundred countries. Dual criminality is a keystone -- whatever crime the individual is charged with has to also be a crime in the US. This creates headaches for the US sometimes, as "conspiracy" is not a crime in many countries. Eg, Julian Assange was extradited to the US on relatively minor charges -- the big charges were all conspiracy. And of course, under a recent SCOTUS decision, it appears that all acts committed by a US President are lawful.
On “As it all falls down around our ears: An open thread”
As for Anthropic specifically, I’m not up on the details, either of Anthropic’s history or this specific spat. But if Hegseth is upset, that strongly suggests that Anthropic is on the side of the angels, at least on this one.
I believe the line Anthropic (and OpenAI too, I think) have drawn is at autonomous killing machines at a retail level. "Retail" meaning the AI has decided this person is an enemy combatant that should be killed, and that person is not. I may have missed something, but they don't seem as opposed to wholesale level stuff, as in the AI has decided this is a Chinese landing ship with 1,000 marines attacking Taiwan, or not.
"
And now they are trying to bury us in carbon on top of that by consuming as much energy as a small city.
I would have said medium-sized. The four cities served by my local power authority have a combined population of 354000. If we were one city, that would put us at 55th on the US list. During peak summer usage, the four cities occasionally draw 600 MW. The new data center complex being built up the road from us in Cheyenne, WY will draw 1,200 MW almost continuously when finished.
"
I donated blood yesterday. The phlebotomist felt around the scar tissue for a whole, then asked, "Is it okay with you if I use the vein over here?" pointing about an inch away. That worked out well, since the undamaged vein stopped quickly when the needle was pulled. The vein with all the scar tissue can be reluctant to stop.
Partly because of wj's example, I signed up to be an election judge. The county only has the one job title, but it covers positions with all sorts of part-time assignments (everything from collecting from the mail ballot drop boxes to face-to-face stuff at the vote centers to working in the counting bunker). I won't know what they'll need until closer to the primaries. "Job title" is intentional; they don't use unpaid volunteers.
Earlier this afternoon California's CAISO electricity supply was >75% renewables; Texas' ERCOT was >65% renewables; my local power authority was nearly 100% renewables. The local PA was also running a bunch of excess coal and even natural gas. We're having another wind event. My understanding is that excess is because someone else in the region has lost a transmission line and we're the backup (coal for bulk power, NG for frequency control).
On “Perpwalk Imperial”
And general lack of basic respect for women as people, regardless of age.
When I was 26 or 27, I dropped out of a Bell Labs racquetball league because I couldn't stand listening to the locker room verbal mistreatment highly-educated men aimed at their female colleagues. Women with MS and PhD degrees, some of whom significantly outperformed** those same men in technical jobs, were spoken about as if they were subhuman.
** I had already been put into a mentor position, and had limited access to people's performance reviews.
On “Open Thread”
Care to share names?
What's the meme? All of them, Katie.
All of the major rating firms -- Fitch, Moody's, S&P, etc -- rated CDOs based on subprime mortgages as high-quality investment-grade paper. During hearings on the subprime crisis, the US Senate heard testimony from multiple experts recommending that none of those firms should ever be allowed to rate CDOs in the future. I am somewhat more vindictive -- send a serious message and just put them out of business entirely.
"
The Economist has stayed the course much better than some other major publications that have drifted from journalism to viewpoint advocacy.
I dropped my subscription when they went full cheerleader for the Iraq War. They were even more enthusiastic and optimistic than the Bush administration was.
On “Perpwalk Imperial”
Where all of this will fail across the US, is on "You let me cheat on my taxes by $10M every year, and you're going to draw a line at sex with 17-year-old?" That this will be largely successful is very depressing to me, even before we get to my granddaughters.
On “Open Thread”
now Stinky says he’s going to do a 10% global tariff.
But no more, anywhere? Last month BYD filed suit at the US Court of International Trade challenging much higher tariffs than that on their EVs. If the tariff on compact EVs is reduced to 10%, they'll be opening dealerships tomorrow and dominating EV sales by next year. I claim there is an enormous unmet demand for well-built compact EVs priced at $20k, and BYD can meet it.
On “Take your’n and beat his’n”
Oddly, to me, all of this blather comes in the context of the US basically telling Europe to fuck off. Which seems… inconsistent with an emphasis on “preserving our Western identity”.
Miller and Trump are trying to build Fortress America, which will include big doses of misogyny, racism, and unrestricted Gilded Age capitalism. They think Europe ought to be building Fortress Europe along the same lines, without an American military presence. (Yes, the transition looks a lot like "f*ck off".) "Preserving our Western identity" means we were on the same side during the Cold War. Seriously, they're not thinking any farther back in history than that.
On “Open Thread”
The robots are coming.
Elsewhere, I was in a discussion about the power requirements for an AGI that can handle all the things a humanoid robot will be asked to do. Current estimates are the human brain is roughly the equivalent of an exaflop processor. Germany recently fired up their new exaflop supercomputer, which is the most power efficient in the world. It draws 18.2 megaWatts (and the hardware takes up ~120 racks). I anticipate that a humanoid robot that can properly execute an order like "Go through the house, collect all the dirty dishes, load them into the dishwasher, and run it" will be a fancy peripheral for a closet full of computer gear drawing more power than the entire rest of the house.
"
On Wednesday this week, Trump signed an executive order that requires the Dept of Defense -- excuse me, Dept of War -- to sign long-term power purchase agreements with coal-fired power plants to provide power for military bases to keep those plants running. Separately, that the Dept of Energy will provide at least $175M for maintaining and upgrading coal-fired power plants in Appalachia. The EO includes a provision that the PPAs cannot infringe on the authority of other executive branch agencies. I have SO many questions about how they're going to make this work within the constraints set by FERC.
"
My in-laws in Colorado on the other side of the divide are freaking out about the lack of water and snowpack, too.
The problems west of the Divide make the ones to the east look fairly moderate. Snow timing has changed just in the almost 40 years I've lived here now. Having April snow bail us out has become a fairly regular occurrence. Not so much on the west side.
On “Unsure on the definition of ‘torn’”
If you’ve ever done farm work (I have) you can certainly see why not. Not that it makes me sympathetic.
Makes me recall a now-humorous memory. One summer my father sent me to spend a week with one of his cousins who owned a family farm. What did I get from that week? A life-long determination to acquire skills that would let me work in a climate-controlled environment where I didn't have to lift heavy things. Or put my fingers in the near neighborhood of rotary machinery with blades and no safety cover.
"
GA tried making it actually illegal to hire illegals, and it was a disaster.
Many years back now, the Colorado General Assembly was considering a bill, introduced by rural Republican members, that was basically a license for the sheriffs' departments in rural counties to hassle short brown ag workers. Once word got out, the eastern plains wheat farmers began getting calls from the custom cutters** saying they were just going to skip Colorado if the bill passed. Typically something like, "All my crews are legal, but I'm not going to put them at the mercy of your sheriff's asshole deputies." The bill died.
** Custom cutters are groups with one or more big combines and a bunch of trucks who harvest vast wheat fields when they're ripe. It's migratory work, starting in Texas and moving north as the summer progresses. Really erratic work. If it rains you can't harvest, and sometimes getting the job done in time means working by headlights all night long. Farmers, or even small groups of farmers, can't afford big combines. These days, some of them go for $500,000 or higher.
On “Xi and China’s military: an off the wall theory”
It's possible that it's as simple as something like Xi asking, "What have you learned from Russia-Ukraine that will make our takeover of Taiwan less costly?" And didn't like the answer.
"
It is one thing for a leader to show no mercy to his enemies; it is quite another for him to be so pitiless with his friends.
Civilian authoritarian leaders have no friends in the military.
On “Adam Tooze”
...will have to decide whether and on what terms they want to work with an economically dominant China on the climate problem.
Here's the fuel mix for my pissant little non-profit local power authority for the last 24 hours. 20 years ago it was, except for the same amount of hydro, all fossil fuels. The wind is from turbines built somewhere in the US. The solar is from panels built in Georgia. Another 100MW of solar comes online late this year, along with a 100MW 400MWh battery system. The batteries are from a Korean company's US plant. For coal, 100MW is the minimum plant output that still allows for a warm start. The wholly-owned coal plant's power is as cheap as the wind or solar because local circumstances, so gets dispatched by the balancing authority.
Despite Trump's efforts, there are still things going on in the US, even if we aren't leading.
On “Moral insanity”
Some counties and cities (e.g. Hennepin County and Minneapolis) were not. They release them into the public sphere rather than cooperate. Now the AG (Keith Ellison) doubled down, issuing an opinion that honoring detainers violates Minnesota law, even when there is an agreement with the feds (287(g) agreements).
1) The 287(g) agreements -- Hennepin County doesn't have one -- state explicitly that the state/local authority is responsible for the costs of jailing detainees until ICE gets around to picking them up. As I read the MOA document, that responsibility is open-ended: ICE does not guarantee how quickly they will come get the detainee. At least in recent history, ICE/CBP has refused to reimburse any local authorities, 287(g) agreement or not.
2) In some states there are explicit laws that forbid spending state/county moneys to enforce federal law. Arguably, holding someone beyond when they would have been otherwise released only because of an ICE/CBP detainer request violates such laws, at least w/o reimbursement.
3) SCOTUS case law says that the choice is up to the state/local authority. The feds can't require state/local authorities to spend state/local money enforcing federal law.
4) At least in my state, rural counties tend to have surplus jail cells and non-rural counties do not. Elsewhere, there are extreme cases. There was a huge fuss when it turned out LA County was releasing some famous people who got 30-day sentences after one night in jail. As it turned out, LA County was in the situation that to create space for people who would be sentenced today, each morning they released anyone who had less than 30 days left on their sentence. You didn't have to be famous for 30 days to mean overnight.
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