by liberal japonicus
In the moral insanity post, we got to talking about what was up with ICE and Minneapolis, so this NYT Daily, with two reporters puts a lot of flesh on the bones of any speculation. The transcript is here.
As the interview points out, ICE cooperation with local law was a given during Obama’s administration, and was a way to let off steam about immigration. But it is only with the current administration’s overreach that you are getting the kind of pushback you are seeing. The video also notes that the murder of George Floyd can be thought of as starting point. This starts to seem like the abolitionist movement in the decades before the Civil War. Heather Cox Richardson has mined this as has Jay Kuo and Jamelle Bouie, so I’m not bringing some massively new insight, but it is the framework I have been holding when I listen to this stuff.
Here’s the thing. This statement right here:
“We’re prioritizing the types of people we’re arresting. We’re going after the worst of the worst. And we’re not just going out there willy-nilly picking up people.”
Is bullshit.
Miller has set a quota for deportations that is orders of magnitude greater than the number of criminal undocumented people. ICE and CBP folks are getting bonuses for making their quotas. So they grab anyone who is brown or has an accent.
Immigration enforcement is not the job of local police. We don’t ask ICE or CBP to enforce traffic violations etc., and we should not ask local cops to do immigration work. For all the reasons discussed in the piece.
You don’t need 6 or 8 guys to arrest a criminal undocumented alien. You don’t need an MRAP, or a sound cannon, or “less lethal” ordinance to arrest a criminal undocumented alien.
ICE has to go to somebody’s house to arrest someone? OMFG, what a burden.
How did the local cops get that person in jail in the first place? They got a warrant and went and took physical custody of them. In many cases, they went to their house and arrested them.
Without an MRAP.
So I think ICE is capable of doing the same.
These guys have killed people, blinded people, shot people, rammed into people’s cars, beaten the shit out of people, threatened people with guns drawn. It’s an exercise in dominance. Aimed in particular at blue cities in blue states.
Fuck that.
Want co-operation? Stop terrorizing people. Short of that, get the fuck out.
And I appreciate that Homan is a kinder gentler version of Bovino, but we have the man on tape taking a $50K bribe.
That’s the best Trump and Miller can come up with?
These guys have a long history of killing and abusing people and coloring outside the legal lines. The only difference now is they’re killing white people.
Time to burn it down and start over from a clean slate.
I beg leave to doubt that ICS is capable of doing the same. It would require a level of competence that they show no sign of possessing.
Say, rather, that ICE should do the same.
I can tell from the increasing frequency of F-bombs in my comments that it’s time for me to take a little break from current events.
We are governed by greedheads and sociopathic weirdos. It is what it is, and it is what it’s gonna be until we can figure out how to change it.
And, nonetheless, we all still need to live our lives as best we can.
Stay safe and sane out there, keep on keeping on, and don’t let the bastards get inside your head. Saying that to myself as much as anything else.
FWIW. i like spicy russell. his presence confirms the severity of the situation.
but, breaks are always good, too.
What cleek said.
Maybe I’ll go with the Johnny Dangerously lingo.
Farging iceholes! Sonamabatch!!
A little humor with the spice can’t be bad.
And yeah, these people are farging iceholes. I’m kinda looking forward to the Epstein stuff clearing the decks – send them all to jail. If that includes Bill Clinton, I’m OK with it.
I gotta go play some music now so I don’t lose my mind.
That’s “Farging ICEholes.”
nous for the win!
You could go the route of Fantastic Mr. Fox:
Badger: In summation, I think you just got to not do it, man. That’s all.
Mr. Fox: I understand what you’re saying, and your comments are valuable, but I’m gonna ignore your advice.
Badger: The cuss you are.
Mr. Fox: The cuss am I? Are you cussing with me?
Badger: No, you cussing with me?
Mr. Fox: Don’t cussing point at me!
Badger: If you’re gonna cuss with somebody, you’re not gonna cuss with me, you little cuss!
Mr. Fox: You’re not gonna cuss with me!
[Both start snarling at each other, and then settle down]
Mr. Fox: Just buy the tree.
Badger: Okay.