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GftNC
GftNC
25 days ago

Hmm, that song was written 30 years ago (hence 30 years of hurt), and has been sung ever since. I think there was a measure of humility all along, it just manifests very differently from in some other societies.

CharlesWT
CharlesWT
25 days ago
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nooneithinkisinmytree
nooneithinkisinmytree
25 days ago

HELLO SAILORS!!

I wonder about the testosterone distribution among these three heros:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqvCA4c80GQ&rco=1

Hegseth has also ordered a policy of permitting officers to lay hands on recruits.

This sounds like the conservative movement’s deliberate policy over the past 30-40 years of introducing military-grade weaponry into everyday American life, manufacturing, transporting freely, carrying in automobiles and on our persons, and then proceeding to fuck with all of us with big gummint violence and retribution and abuse ….. and then leering at us and daring us to make use of their gift.

The Supreme Court lickspittles have armed the country and now whine that they are being threatened with gun violence.

I noticed in the latest limited government cold-blooded murder by ICE vermin in the vermin breeding ground of Texas that some of the murderer’s accompliced were women.

Maybe testosterone isn’t the vector.

Maybe the Christian Nationalist Republican MAGA conservative mind virus is the culprit.

That sissy-assed tattooed freak Hegseth looks like those serial killers who do life in prison and find the man-on-man prison sex just another way of reaching for the soap and part of their dominant exercise regimen.

We don’t know what we’re up against.

I’m about to start reading this two volume tome:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=male+fantasies+klaus+theweleit&crid=3A5W5B4C69TDG&sbm=true&setroute=search&sprefix=male+fantasies%2Caps%2C144&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-expert-pd-ops-ranker_1_14

The late Weimar period was a practice session for what’s coming at us.

nooneithinkisinmytree
nooneithinkisinmytree
24 days ago

A chip off the old blockhead:

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2026/07/transgender-semiconductors

My computer has lots of mammary.

My iPhone looks good in a Catholic schoolgirl uniform.

My car goes both ways.

As Thomas Jefferson opined: “We hold these truths to be self-abusive, that everyone’s got one, that they are well endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Parts, that among these are what’s mentioned in the fade-out to I Am The Walrus.

I’m a transresister.

nooneithinkisinmytree
nooneithinkisinmytree
24 days ago

‘Time for some benchslaps’: Trump-appointed judge on 9th Circuit asks SCOTUS to summarily reverse his colleagues on the Second Amendment

I agree with this vermin. I’m going to need fully automatic weaponry AND switchblade knives to defend myself wirh deadly force from him when he comes to murder me.

E. Jean Carroll needed at least a flick knife when conservative Christian MAGA Republican Donald Trump raped her.

Don’t you agree, conservatives?

nous
nous
24 days ago

FWIW – Nolan’s Odyssey is well crafted, well paced, visually lush, and thoughtfully adapted. Well worth a visit to the theater to see it on the big screen, and well worth a long discussion afterwards.

nous
nous
24 days ago

One thought that I had WRT The Odyssey: The Greeks had two gods of war. Nolan understands why Athens worshipped dispassionate Athena and were deeply ambivalent towards bloodthirsty Ares. The USA is in the hands of people who love Ares and have no respect for Athena, and we are lost at sea for that very reason.

novakant
novakant
24 days ago
Hartmut
Hartmut
23 days ago

Behind paywall, unfortunately

nous
nous
23 days ago

novakant – Thanks nous. What do you make if these critics’ take?

Last time I responded to a couple of critics’ reviews of a Matt Damon war film I ended up with 70 pages and a year-and-a-half’s worth of thoughts on the subject, and nearly broke me several times… I promise to be more prompt and more brief.

I found the New Yorker review more productive than the one in Time. I don’t necessarily disagree with the observations from which they are starting, but I don’t find that either of them give me what I am looking for in a review, which is offering a critical perspective that deepens the experience of viewing the film and helps to highlight the most important things that the film wishes to work through. The Time review instead offers a judgment of Nolan’s choices and use of the actors’ talents. The New Yorker review critiques Nolan’s choices as a historian. Neither of those choices of perspective start by trying to understand what Nolan was trying to do or say with this film.

Nolan is making a feature film for wide release in 2026 with Odysseus as his protagonist. That’s going to color a lot of his choices. He could choose to portray Odysseus in a manner consistent with the one that we find in Homer’s text, but that is asking the audience to pay $20 to spend two hours with a character that is an asshole by our standards. Instead, Nolan chose to give us a protagonist who experiences the events that Odysseus experiences, but whose character is based more in Dr. Jonathan Shay’s modern reading of the character through the lens of his clinical work with veterans who have severe, persistent PTSD (read Achilles in Vietnam, or Odysseus in America if this interests you). Nolan also chooses to work from Emily Wilson’s translation f the Odyssey, which itself was Wilson’s attempt to strip the varnish of patriarchy and modern romanticism from the often brutal language of the poem. Leaning into those choices colors the result, as it should.

I don’t know what I would think of the film if I came to it without having read the poem in translation(s) multiple times, or without having spent months of my life struggling to say something productive about Saving Private Ryan and the work of Jonathan Shay. My critical perspective shapes my experience. But I do try to listen to what Nolan is trying to say, and to consider what I believe his influences are, and meet somewhere in the middle with respect for those things before offering my own view.

I don’t think that the more critical reviews have been as generous or patient with their listening before applying their own critical perspectives.

GftNC
GftNC
23 days ago

nous, you’re the second person to recommend Emily Wilson’s translation of the Odyssey today. I’m going to try it, because the last time I read the Odyssey it was the kind of old-fashioned translation that is hard to enjoy. But I wonder about the phrase:

Wilson’s attempt to strip the varnish of patriarchy and modern romanticism from the often brutal language of the poem.

because I’m anxious about reading something which removes something which I’m assuming is intrinsic to the original (e.g. patriarchy). It’s not that I mind reading an “alternative” version (e.g. Pat Barker’s The Silence of the Girls” about part of the Iliad), but that’s different from reading a translation. Perhaps I misunderstood what you said about stripping the varnish of patriarchy, would you mind explaining a bit more about what you meant?

nous
nous
23 days ago

GftNC – I’m anxious about reading something which removes something which I’m assuming is intrinsic to the original (e.g. patriarchy). It’s not that I mind reading an “alternative” version (e.g. Pat Barker’s The Silence of the Girls” about part of the Iliad), but that’s different from reading a translation.

I was using the phrase “strips the varnish” as an art conservation metaphor to describe how translation choices can change the color of the paint beneath, or add a new sheen to things. I’ll. let Wilson speak for herself here, in the note I had in mind when I introduced the metaphor.

The elite households represented in The Odyssey all include a large staff of domestic slaves to work in the house, preparing and serving food and taking care of their masters’ clothes, and field slaves to work the estate and tend the animals. The language used to describe these people poses a particular challenge to the translator. To translate a domestic female slave, called in the original a ‘dmoe’ (“female-house-slave”), as a “maid” or “domestic servant” would imply that she was free. I have often used “slave,” although it is less specific than manyof the terms for types of slaves in the original. The need to acknowledge the fact and the horror of slavery, and to mark the fact that the idealized society depicted in the poems is one where slavery is shockingly taken for granted, seems to outweigh the need to specify, in every instance, the type of slave. I have also used the terms “house girl” and “house boy.” The analogy with a slave-owning plantation in the antebellum American South is certainly not exact, but it is at least a little closer than the alternative analogies — of a Victorian stately home or a modern night club.

I try to avoid importing contemporary types of sexism into the ancient poem, instead shining a clear light on the particular forms of sexism and patriarchynthat do exist in the text, which are only partly familiar from our world. For instance, in the scene where Telemachus oversees the hanging of the slaves who have been sleeping with the suitors. most translations introduce derogatory language (“sluts” or “whores”), suggesting that these women are being punished for a genuinely objectionable pattern of behavior, as if their sexual history actually justified their deaths. The original Greek does not label these slaves with any derogatory language. Many contemporary translators render Helen’s “dog-face” as if it were equivalent to “shameless Helen” (or “Helen the bitch”). I have kept the metaphor (“hounded”), and have also made sure that my Helen, like that of the original, refrains from blaming herself for what men have done in her name.

Hope this clears up my intended meaning.

GftNC
GftNC
23 days ago

Ha – that totally clears it up, nous, thank you! I now see the point of the metaphor about stripping the varnish, and it makes total sense to me. From your extract, I like the cut of her jib, and my choice of translation is decided.

nous
nous
23 days ago

I had three semesters of Ancient Greek as an undergrad – like everyone else at the college – and now on the college’s unofficial FB page there’s an explosion of snarky hot takes from alums who think that toe-dip and a few seminars talking about The Odyssey qualifies them to provide expert testimony about the weaknesses of Nolan’s and Wilson’s grasp of the poem.

One was complaining about Wilson translating a word that most often gets translated as “war” as “violence,” implying that she was imparting her feminist spin on the text.

This from one line of Greek, taken out of context, not knowing if she had translated the word elsewhere using “war,” or if she was varying her word choice to avoid repetition or to fit the constraints of the rules she had set for herself. She is translating Greek hexameter into English pentameter while also holding herself to the same number of lines as the original for pacing purposes, and trying to incorporate as much of the sound play of the original language as could be managed within those first two constraints.

They haven’t a clue how badass her translation is. Their thimble-sized cups already overflow.

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GftNC
GftNC
23 days ago

I did two years of Ancient Greek having done Latin for three years, and after being tricked into it by a cool young classics teacher who said it was much more fun than Latin (which I also continued for the same two years). It made my life a misery, and even now the expression “regular verbs” makes me laugh blackly. The literature may well be more fun/interesting, but the language is torture, at least for me.

cleek
cleek
23 days ago

“Hey Google, I can’t read Koine Greek, but I’d like you to use it to back up my insanity.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePOFXlflzD4

Last edited 23 days ago by cleek
nous
nous
23 days ago

First day of my first Greek tutorial, our tutor told us: “Truth is stranger than fiction, and Greek is stranger than both.

GftNC
GftNC
22 days ago

Apparently, Count Binface studied Classics (called Greats) at Oxford, and is known to be “fluent in Ancient Greek” (not an expression I’d ever heard before). Whether this will help him against Nigel Farage, time will tell.

It does of course mean he is more familiar than most people with tyrants, autarchs etc.

Last edited 22 days ago by GftNC
nous
nous
22 days ago

Spain deserved that win against a flat and cynical Argentina. Was so very afraid that Messi and friends were going to milk it until PKs.

GftNC
GftNC
22 days ago

Hard agree! Plus I really didn’t want Milei to get a win, and Spain were much more skilful, played cleaner, and Spain is currently high on Goldzilla’s shit list. All this despite the fact I know nothing about football, and would never normally watch it!

novakant
novakant
22 days ago

I have to agree (though the Spanish were no choir boys either). However, I was hoping for penalty kicks, simply because I love them, especially after a mediocre to bad game.

GftNC
GftNC
19 days ago

Surprise!

From today’s Times (a Murdoch paper):

President Trump is considering backing Gianni Infantino to head the United Nations because the Fifa president is “respected by everyone around the world”.

Trump is thought to support a move for Infantino to become the UN’s secretary-general, to replace António Guterres after his retirement in December.

The move would break with UN precedent and so is unlikely to be successful, but the suggestion from those close to the president shows the extent of Trump’s relationship with the Fifa president.

The move would break with UN precedent surely has to be right up there in the “understatement of the year” competition.

Michael Cain
Michael Cain
19 days ago

An Argentine is an Italian who speaks Spanish, thinks French, and would like to be English.

And hires Germans to do the engineering bits.

Michael Cain
Michael Cain
19 days ago

…but the suggestion from those close to the president shows the extent of Trump’s relationship with the Fifa president.

Someone’s got to say it. “Game recognize game.” Two of the great modern grifters.

nous
nous
19 days ago

Had an ortho checkup today. Pins are pointy looking, sticking out of the thumb. In a cast for another 2.5 weeks (2 less than originally scheduled, so yay) and then all that’s left is to get the pins pulled and let the skin heal and work on strength and range of motion.

GftNC
GftNC
19 days ago

Pins are pointy looking, sticking out of the thumb.

Eeeek – gruesome. Sounds like things are going well, nous. Hope it continues.

wjca
wjca
19 days ago

President Trump is considering backing Gianni Infantino to head the United Nations because the Fifa president is “respected by everyone around the world”.

Well, that’s one way to assure that Infantino doesn’t get the job. (Assuming that was ever a possibility in the first place.)

Infantino might (in some different universe) be respected around the world. But even if he were, Trump is not. To put it mildly. My guess is that, if Trump does this, it might even get Infantino booted from FIFA. Which would be a blessing.