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hairshirthedonist

Michael Cain, your wife-to-be from before you knew her exudes goodness in that photo. Top of the preservation list, I imagine.

wj
+ I wish I could say I'm surprised. I think a more accurate opening line might refer to "the Attorney General" or "senior political appointees in the [. . .]
wj
+ Michael, this is just way cool! When you feel like the software is mostly together, is it something you would be willing to share? Sell? [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ As we've gotten around to archives... TL;DR version: I've started playing with a toy version of the beginnings of software that will eventually be a tool [. . .]
wj
+ Perhaps the greatest calculator ... was Kepler Perhaps. But the ladies who did all the calculations for the Mercury and Apollo Projects were no [. . .]
Pro Bono

Thanks, Tony P. The two most underrated scientists in popular science history are Kepler and James Clerk Maxwell. (Galileo is the most overrated.)

CaseyL
+ I love maps. All kinds: altases, road maps, city maps, world maps. Give me a map to use, read, ponder, and I can [. . .]
Tony P.
+ Pro Bono: Perhaps the greatest calculator ... was Kepler PB, if you haven't seen this 3Blue1Brown video, you really should take a look. The mind-boggling [. . .]
wj
+ Why spent minutes (at minimum) on the screen when a sketch on paper takes seconds? Tablets are getting better at imitating what paper and pencil [. . .]
Hartmut
+ Don't know about memory but in my case writing by hand clearly improves quality (and is also quicker). And doing math (not calculating but solving a [. . .]
russell
+ There seems to be a consistent body of work showing that taking notes during a lecture reinforces memory The more ways you can engage with a [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ At the rate software is improving, I suppose computers will be able to read to us, and write down what we say as well. During the [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ ...why and whether kids still have to learn to write by hand in our modern age. There seems to be a consistent body of work showing [. . .]
Hartmut
+ Doing recursions on the calculator was also among my first experiences. I did not yet understand though why certain functions would yield the same result [. . .]
wj

All this math talk has me celebrating pi, but not exactly.
Hmmm. I'm thinking exactly, but not precisely.

hairshirthedonist
+ I played with an electronic calculator when I was a kid. It allowed me to start recognizing patterns in numbers, particularly when performing the [. . .]
Hartmut
+ First we smash all the (electronic*) calculators. Get the logarithm table and/or the slide rule back. That's how one teaches the basics! In all seriousness, I work as [. . .]
hairshirthedonist

All this math talk has me celebrating pi, but not exactly.

Pro Bono

Perhaps the greatest calculator, unmentioned in Devlin's article, was Kepler, who worked out his laws of planetary motion from Brahe's observations.

Snarki, child of Loki
+ For any mathematician alive today, mathematics is a subject that studies formally-defined concepts, with a focus on the establishment of truth (based on accepted axioms) Absolutely, [. . .]
liberal japonicus
+ I’m on my phone, so can’t give links, but I encourage a dive into how japanese teach math vs US methods. A couple of points [. . .]
nous
+ Here's a post from Keith Devlin working through some thoughts about the tension between calculation and mathematical thinking. https://devlinsangle.blogspot.com/2018/05/calculation-was-price-we-used-to-have.html For any mathematician alive today, mathematics is a [. . .]
wj
+ I suppose I can see how, if everybody who knows how to read** has a phone/computer in their hip pocket, knowing basic arithmetic might be [. . .]
Pro Bono
+ I was taught using the School Mathematics Project, which seemed OK to me. But I may not be one of the "normal people". I suggest that [. . .]
wj
+ New Math was the same sort of thing. It pushed a much broader view of what math was than just the algorithms. Look, long division [. . .]
wj
+ Camel notation* from computer programming would possibly be better: InternalCompustionEngine. It is interesting that it is widely used in domain names, e.g. KaiserPermanente.org Clearly [. . .]
liberal japonicus

Charles, I gotta ask, don’t you wonder about quoting an LLM that can call itself ‘MechaHitler’?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-does-the-ai-powered-chatbot-grok-post-false-offensive-things-on-x

liberal japonicus

Charles, I gotta ask, don’t you wonder about quoting an LLM that can call itself ‘MechaHitler’?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-does-the-ai-powered-chatbot-grok-post-false-offensive-things-on-x

liberal japonicus
+ I'm not sure if I'd be so harsh on the Roman alphabet. You don't want a system that encodes everything. Something that floors my students is [. . .]
Hartmut
+ Michael, the scrambling thing is called Typoglycemia. In German it's Buchstabensalat (letter salad) and at a pedagocic course I had to suffer through at university [. . .]
CharlesWT

Is this just an English thing?
According to Grok:
Scrambled Words Across Languages

Michael Cain
+ "Whole language" may have been a wrong turn if it really resulted in ignoring phonetics (I doubt that it really did in practice), but the [. . .]
skeptonomist
+ "it radically rewrote the rules of literacy for tens of thousands of children seemingly overnight." There are always stories about how miraculous various programs and phonics [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ It's just convention that one does not write railwaystation or particleaccelerator or internalcombustionengine but imo those are perceived as units. German also has the useful convention [. . .]
liberal japonicus
+ A couple of things about reading. It's a bit like second language acquisition, in that no one is guaranteed to acquire reading. There is a [. . .]
Snarki, child of Loki

"A very rare exception is suovetaurilia"
Thanks, Harmut for introducing us to the ancient Roman form of Turducken.

Hartmut
+ wj, imo English de facto has composite words, just not writing them as such (keeping the parts separate, not even using hyphens). It's just convention [. . .]
nous
+ I'm puzzled by this. I'm not good at languages, relative to my other skills, but switching alphabets - Cyrillic, Greek, Georgian... is trivial. It's not onerous, [. . .]
wj
+ In Latin one has to invent new words for concepts Cicero&Co. did not yet possess and would probably not understand. Greek (unlike classical Latin) allows [. . .]
Pro Bono
+ ...the alphabet contributes somewhat to that difficulty... I'm puzzled by this. I'm not good at languages, relative to my other skills, but switching alphabets - Cyrillic, [. . .]
Pro Bono
+ India, with its huge population, already uses it because its people speak 5 mutually unintelligible native languages Off the top of my head, Hindi, Urdu, Bengali, [. . .]
liberal japonicus
+ It occurs to me that a lot of education should be guiding people to what they are good at. I always thought I was good [. . .]
Hartmut
+ Ancient Greek is far more versatile than Latin but also quite a bit more difficult. I never really got the hang of it (in 3.5 [. . .]
nous
+ Instant translation is fine for functional and transactional language, but it hits its limits pretty quickly as language complexity increases and becomes problematic for understanding [. . .]
novakant
+ Why learn, if there is an instant translator? I don't see that happening in complex, real-life contexts. It's hard enough to make sense of people in [. . .]
nous
+ In case anyone is interested in the subject (and in lieu of fraught AI summaries): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_as_a_lingua_franca It's entirely possible that English will become the lingua franca for [. . .]
Hartmut
+ Or kill it altogether. Why learn, if there is an instant translator? If everyone has a babelfish in his or her ear, the need disappears [. . .]