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nous
+ I read this book about the border militias back when it first came out as part of a research project that I put on hiatus [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ wj: I think it’s useful to distinguish between those ICE officers who have been hired under Trump and those who were not. nous: I’m under the [. . .]
nous
+ More fun!: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-administration-posts-echo-rhetoric-linked-to-extremist-groups Then there's this tweet from Friday, an ICE recruitment ad featuring the turn of phrase "We will have our home again" plastered over [. . .]
GftNC
+ As is the enthusiastic support by the party which has always justified America’s gun laws by the hypothetical need to have the means to defend [. . .]
nous
+ I'm under the impression that US Border Patrol in particular has always been a Hive of Scum and Villainy (thank you Obi Wan). I know that [. . .]
wjca
+ russell: In general, she says, the officers are kind to the folks they are handling. She hasn’t met that many – 10 or 12? [. . .]
Tony P.
+ A couple of vignettes from MAGA land: https://youtube.com/shorts/0mB1sPCI5rA?si=x2aFSBdH76HRJ-m- Hard to tell whether the ICE thugs are snickering under their masks in that one. And here's what [. . .]
Tony P.
+ GftNC: Tony P, I love you. You do make me laugh. (blush) bc: P.P.S. And I hope you wrote that with the same seriousness [. . .]
GftNC
+ The irony of Dear Leader’s criticisms of the Iranian regime’s crackdowns on protesters is pungent. As is the enthusiastic support by the party which has always [. . .]
russell

Both sides?

In the words of Good's widow, we have whistles but they have guns.

russell
+ From here: https://www.newsweek.com/former-ice-agents-break-down-jonathan-rosss-actions-11334133 "First and foremost, this is a tragic event, and I want to extend my sincere condolences to the family and loved ones of [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ Both sides? One side is working in a professional capacity with state sanction. The other side is dead. I supposed the dead side could be [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ A perfect storm of bad decisions on both sides, starting with the agents screaming at her and grabbing her door instead of de-escalating by approaching [. . .]
russell
+ 2 – Why does Ross walk to the front of the running SUV in the first place?3 – Why doesn’t Ross get out [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ Should be read, and not just left to an LLM to synopsize I've read some of it. Grok gives the series good marks with minor quibbles. AI Critique: [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ Some current quotes from GOPsters: "Summary execution is to be expected." The more I think about Nicole Good's killing, the more it looks like a setup [. . .]
nous
+ At first Fox was blaming all the disruptions on Antifa, but after this weekend the new Enemy of the People is "organized gangs of wine [. . .]

>The Boomers are predicting some massive changes for just this year.

of course they are. without promises of Wonders, the bubble will burst.

Hartmut
+ Some current quotes from GOPsters: (via maddowblog) Republican Rep. Roger Williams of Texas, for example, appeared on NewsNation just two days after Good’s death and told viewers, [. . .]
nous
+ Charles WT - have you read the BJ AI series that Carlo Graziani authored? https://balloon-juice.com/category/science-and-technology/artificial-intelligence-carlo/ [Should be read, and not just left to an LLM to synopsize [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ …and I thought the killer would be the substitution of international corporations for national governments. And AIs will be running the corporations. :) But I [. . .]
hairshirthedonist

The irony of Dear Leader's criticisms of the Iranian regime's crackdowns on protesters is pungent.

`wonkie
+ GtNC is scaring the crap out of me. A million years ago when I was, oh, about twenty I can remember being very afraid of [. . .]
russell
+ A modest proposal: When your personal wealth reaches a billion dollars, you are required to move to the seasteading platform of your choice. Your citizenship [. . .]
GftNC
+ Oh God again.... (I have had to take out all the clips, photos etc because links.) Peter Tiel's New Model Army The Palantirisation of the UK military is [. . .]
GftNC

nous: Jesus. It's really wrapped up tight....

nous
+ Here's the other half of the revolutionary agenda that MAGA/P2025 is pursuing that will continue to obstruct any rebalancing that a flipped congress may attempt [. . .]
GftNC
+ What did I actually say about Trump’s negotiation strategy (that I shorthanded “Art of the Deal”)? “Not only do I not like the rhetoric and the [. . .]
wjca
+  It also fails to mention that the USGS, which maps mineral deposits (my dad worked for it before he went into the Navy Oceanographic [. . .]
+ Trump's abilities as a professional troll are incomparable. with respect to all here, i find it completely baffling that anyone in the world thinks anything beyond [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ It's interesting that the pdf link from bc doesn't mention Greenland at all and does not mention China in terms of geography, merely in production. [. . .]
bc
+ I give up. I can't keep up with the straw men. Frex: However, where bc is concerned, I do think his Sweet Summer Child [. . .]
GftNC
+ I don’t think bc actually supports the Nazi Party. Unless he voted for Donald, JD, Lindsey, et.al. Then I might have a few questions. Tony P, I love [. . .]
nous
+ hsh - Well, sure. The question is – how many people are so motivated? I know this crew plays almost exclusively to their base, but [. . .]
Tony P.
+ I don’t think bc actually supports the Nazi Party. Unless he voted for Donald, JD, Lindsey, et.al. Then I might have a few questions. One of [. . .]
russell
+ So, I read the NRO article about Good belonging to ICE Watch. It includes a highly selective account of the events. Go figure. Bullshit [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ A review of the National Review articles. "Incident Overview: On January 7, 2026, Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen and mother of three, was fatally [. . .]
+ >Or is it just a performance to bolster the belief that it is in the minds of the willing? Poe's Law means it's impossible to know. [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ If a viewer is motivated to believe Ross, then they will take the moment where the phone jerks upward as an indication that Ross [. . .]
GftNC
+ Good to be reminded that there is an agreement in place between the US and Denmark from 1916, when Denmark sold their Virgin Islands to [. . .]
russell
+ "If you take it, we take every single base of the Americans from Aviano to Ramstein, from Romania, to all the other military bases will [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus

Gerardus Mercator has a lot to answer for...

nous

We are on the same page, novakant. One more way that the media continues to normalize the caprice of Clementine Caligula.

nous
+ If a viewer is motivated to believe Ross, then they will take the moment where the phone jerks upward as an indication that Ross was [. . .]
novakant

particularly JD Vance

He isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier - the US is ruled by Bif Tannens.

novakant
+ Regarding Greenland, Trump has already won. Namely because 'serious' people are seriously discussing the scenario of an annexation. Trump saw Greenland on a map once, [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ I'm trying to figure out why anyone in the Trump administration, particularly JD Vance, thought Jonathan Ross's phone video supported their version of the story. [. . .]
russell
+ "If this isn’t prodding, it’s the Art of the Deal" You realize, I hope, that The Art Of The Deal was a ghost written piece of [. . .]