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The posts in play...

Maybe time for an Open Thread
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That beacon of peace, China, errr, I mean Pakistan…
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Materialism, rights and Japan
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The comments...

hairshirthedonist
+ Very interesting, GftNC. That conclusion makes me think that politics has become a genre of reality TV (or reality TV-like content in our splintered media [. . .]
GftNC
+ And now for something completely different (as they used to say in Monty Python), this came to me in one of the newsletters I don't [. . .]
Pro Bono
+ Altruisme was possibly coined, and certainly popularized, by Auguste Comte, the French philosopher who was responsible also for our use of the term sociology. Which [. . .]
Hartmut
+ Traditional German translations of Shakespeare have a tendency to bowdlerize/tone down the bard's 'strong' language, turning it more 'classic'. Shakespeare's English audience was mixed of [. . .]
+ ...getting Trump out of the talks is essential. Absolutely. It's another instance of "Everything Trump Touches Dies."** If you want a peace [. . .]
GftNC
+ I see from the Google AI that: "the classic 19th-century Schlegel-Tieck translations..... ...turned his plays into masterpieces of German literature" and given that the GLOML [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ On the other hand, the great love of my life (who was German) used to tell me that among many educated Germans it was reckoned [. . .]
GftNC
+ (Hartmut, and everybody else, I am so sorry to bring the tone down, but on an only tangentially connected point and to add to the [. . .]
Hartmut
+ But be careful not to fall into the Ciceronian trap of assuming that a skilled orator knows more about a topic than the expert on [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ it would be interesting to know if your theory is about altruism, or lay people trying to understand things… I was just being facetious, but my [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ And communication is another field of expertise entirely for most disciplines. It’s rare to find someone who is adept at both.I started out at Bell [. . .]
`wonkie
+ The best option for the Middle East, in terms of American involvement, is for King Pussygrabber to declare victory and turn his attention to tariffs [. . .]
nous
+ Clear. Precise. Simple. Brief. Pick two. You aren't getting to the heart of this field of research in an encyclopedia entry, or even in a day's worth [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ So far, there seems to be little agreement between the United States, Israel, Iran, Lebanon, and the Arab Gulf states about who is involved in [. . .]
+ It’s not uncomment for people who are not part of a particular discourse community to misinterpret messages between members within that community. The problem [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ I suppose this could just be a case of experts in a field consciously perverting the meaning of common terms in order to exclude those [. . .]
GftNC

lj, it would be interesting to know if your theory is about altruism, or lay people trying to understand things...

GftNC
+ wj, I began reading the Wikipedia page under a roughly similar misapprehension, but realised as I went through it what the meaning is in context. [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ I have a theory about all this, but I'm not sure if it is a carefully thought out scientific hypothesis, supported by experimentation or if [. . .]
nous
+ wj - I suppose this could just be a case of experts in a field consciously perverting the meaning of common terms in order to [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ That conflicts massively with the general use of the word. Not just differs in nuance, but flat out conflicts. The article is about biological altruism. You're [. . .]
+ nous -- the Stanford article starts: In evolutionary biology, an organism is said to behave altruistically when its behaviour benefits other organisms, at a [. . .]
nous
+ wj - here are two discussions of altruism from a biological perspective. The first is from Wikipedia (which seems preferable to me than trusting a [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ "In summary, human nature supplies the psychological building blocks (empathy, fairness intuitions, reward from helping) at perhaps 30–50% heritability for the underlying traits. But the [. . .]
+ Trivers argued that altruism depended on the possibility of reciprocity. As long as helping a non-relative is not too costly, and there is sufficient probability [. . .]
Hartmut
+ The President is quite correct that his proposed actions would destroy a whole civilization. But it wouldn’t be the civilization in Iran. It would be [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ Being able to keep track of things and having to part with them has got to be worse than the mess that are is all [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ At the beginning of this particular shitshow, Shitheels tweeted something about how Iran was part of a great civilization in the course of saying he [. . .]
wjca
+ The US president just threatened the genocide not only of a people but a ‘whole civilization’. The President is quite correct that his proposed [. . .]
nous

Sorry you are having yet another heavy day, Michael.

GftNC
+ Since apparently the White House has said that Trump would be making no more comments tonight, as a palate cleanser I give you this remarkable [. . .]
`wonkie
+ I'm not sure that taking to the streets is the right response to the Mad King, given that we were out there just recently. Dems [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ But since it presupposes Iran agreeing to re-open the Strait of Hormuz, unless the Pakistanis got the Iranians’ agreement to that before making this suggestion...I'm [. . .]
GftNC
+ He needed an out, and this latest message looks like the Pakistanis may have given him one. But since it presupposes Iran agreeing to [. . .]
Nooneithinkisinmytree

Rod Dreher is the Christian homosexual hater is that first sentence.

Nooneithinkisinmytree
+ https://digbysblog.net/2026/04/07/jd-on-the-world-stage/ Vance, the subhuman vermin spawn of Christian homosexual hater and Christian homosexual Peter Thiel is committing election-stealing treason in two countries (besides fomenting treason and [. . .]
novakant
+ The US president just threatened the genocide not only of a people but a 'whole civilization'. Can somebody go out on the streets in protest? [. . .]
`wonkie
+ "that sense of spooky aliveness that might lead to wondering what an object might have to say for itself." In other words, delight. At least, for [. . .]
nous

Well, considering who has shaped Grok's output...

It does pair well with the whole "white genocide" incident that Grok went through in 2025.

Liberal Japonicus
+ Grok seems to have missed out on Miller pointing out that Powell is attempting to foment the things he claims are inevitable. Why am I [. . .]
CharlesWT
+ An analysis of the Powell vs Miller debate. "Overall Assessment No major factual inaccuracies. The debate’s logical structure is strong on both sides, but Miller’s central analogy [. . .]
GftNC
+ Hartmut and nous: both fascinating and thought provoking. I also hugely appreciated the Cavett clip - what a pleasure once again to see Jonathan Miller [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ Nous, a really interesting clip. A couple of things I was struck by -the enthusiastic applause Powell got for some of his bullshit -Powell's insistence that he [. . .]
Liberal Japonicus
+ Marc, yeah, that compartmentalization is something I've noticed as well. I aspire to it, though I can feel it rubbing up against that Western notion [. . .]
nous
+ But are we really talking about a "mechanism" in any meaningful way when we talk about gravity? Mechanism is such an interesting word - it's [. . .]
+ I read those arguments about gravity, and my first thought is: "Whether you believe in gravity or not, that rock will still fall on your [. . .]
Hartmut
+ The law of gravity discussion smells of Plato. I'd say that what we call gravity 'existed' before anyone was there to think about it, i.e. matter [. . .]