State of the Discussion

The posts in play...

Indefinitely isn’t what it used to be
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Rule Six, there is NO … Rule Six!…
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Precursors
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An experimental first post
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I just can’t…
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Don’t know much about [ObWi] history…
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IANAL, but…
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Time for a makeover: a webpage design thread
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We are all Usain Bolt now
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The comments...

wj
+ He make an excellent point that, among those with whom we massively disagree, there are (pardon me) nuances. Some had the virtue of opposing [. . .]
`wonkie
+ I used to make pilgrimages to Glacier National Park but no more: climate change and crowds. I used to go to Yukon Territory but no [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ Before ruminating, I will mention how odd I find it that Klein is lamenting the use of social pressure and shame in the aftermath of [. . .]
nous
+ One more response to Ezra Klein's response to the response that was given to his Charlie Kirk eulogy. https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/how-can-we-live-together/ But I am stuck on one bit in [. . .]
+ Interesting stuff, thanks everyone. I've never had a 'home', but have always felt that there should be some place that should function as that. This [. . .]
GftNC
+ CaseyL: it's hard to convey intonation in text! They said "home is wherever WE are", i.e. surely as long as your parents are [. . .]
wj
+ Bruce (Pete): "I vaguely recall a conversation a while back about relocating Israel to a carve-out in Baja California." You would probably have a better [. . .]
CaseyL
+ GftNC - Home is not "wherever we are," though being able to feel at home wherever you are is a gift. I have lived in Seattle [. . .]
novakant
+ I felt oddly at home while visiting London many years ago. While London can feel like you are permanently swimming upriver, oddly enough it also feels [. . .]
GftNC
+ I wish you did belong here, hsh! I was dragged around a lot as a child (4 countries), homes changed and parents said "but darling, surely [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ I felt oddly at home while visiting London many years ago. I haven't been back since. Aside from leaving a lot of people [. . .]
nous
+ As I have mentioned before, we’ve been thinking a lot about (early) retirement due to the combination of burnout, security concerns, and the right’s ongoing [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ I kind of feel the same way about that yearning for an ancestral homeland. This is in the same category as "who are your people?" questions. At [. . .]
Bruce (Pete)
+ My childhood home is still "home", as I still have many friends in the area and zoning laws as well as environmental preserves have kept [. . .]
hairshirthedonist
+ Someone once said, “‘Home’ is where you bury your bone.” Roger Waters wrote and sang a variation on that, the only one I was previously familiar [. . .]
CaseyL
+ I wonder if I'm a born nomad, because I have no sense of an ancestral "home." I've lived in different parts of [. . .]
wj
+ I can relate to the "can't go home again" simply because California has grown so dramatically since I was young. I grew up on [. . .]
hairshirthedonist

Maybe we need a "Meta Godwin's Law" regarding the probability that someone will invoke Godwin's Law.

hairshirthedonist

Whose fault is that?

+ bc's comment is a bit of a misapprehension, because in this context, I imagine that there would be new principles enshrined as amendments rather than [. . .]
nous
+ WRT BC's linking of environmental justice to the rights of the unborn, the opposite legal flourish would be to invoke Castle Doctrine as a defense [. . .]
nous
+ The think I noticed was that the rhetoric of retribution was about evenly split between End Times dogwhistles and QAnon dogwhistles. Either way, it's pretty [. . .]
bc

We don't even need Godwin's law anymore. The probability is 1 from the get-go now.

bc
+ Seems to me that it is preferable to have some framework rather than none, even if inconsistently applied (at least you have something to measure [. . .]
Cheez Whiz
+ Well, these are people who have been absolutely hammered with eliminationist propaganda for a generation now. If you can accept the premise the rest flows [. . .]
`wonkie

Thank you for doing all this work

Thanks! Can I ask you a few more questions off list? Email me at libjpn@gmail.com.

hairshirthedonist
+ I never thought I'd paste a link to a facebook post, but here it is. A friend of mine shared it. The original [. . .]
nous
+ More simply than that murk, though, I'd expect that The Papaya of Hate would either pardon or under-bus-chuck whoever oversaw the whole thing, and then [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ At some point, with any luck at all, an administration which actually believes in the law may try to arrest and try those responsible. In my [. . .]
GftNC
+ I think the contributions of lawyers can be very helpful. I wonder whether, for example, pollo de muerte knows about our move? bj [. . .]
GftNC
+ Funnily enough, I only posted that last Klein/Shapiro piece for the preamble about the reaction to Klein's last piece! I didn't even read the [. . .]
nous
+ I didn't read your comment about bringing in Shapiro as being about the timing, but rather the positioning. I think both reflect Klein's commitment to [. . .]
+ i have some minor WP coding experience: i've written a couple of plugins that i use on my own site, and i've tweaked the PHP [. . .]
wj
+ At this point, the best hope for anyone with a small boat in the southern Caribbean is probably the short attention spans of the people [. . .]
+ I accidentally skipped over a part to go to the dialogue where Klein notes that he had taped his coversation with Shapiro before Kirk's death, [. . .]
+ I mentioned that I hadn't seen the video associated (if there is one) to the first Klein piece, though looking at it, it is probably [. . .]
nous
+ That Shapiro conversation really captures the reasons why I think Klein is an unproductive voice. Shapiro claims over and over throughout the conversation that "the [. . .]
GftNC

And since Ezra Klein talks today about the reaction to that piece, here is his latest on that:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-ben-shapiro.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nk8.DjGX.vndkpD-Jytfn&smid=url-share

GftNC
+ Yes, a preview button would be great if not too troublesome to set up. Otherwise, it's taking me time to get used to the [. . .]
Tony P.
+ I once declared on the old site that it was perfect IMO. Being fickle, I say this one is perfect too. Lacking Michael's [. . .]
Michael Cain
+ The Academica theme is oriented a little more towards discussions. It's what I used when I was fooling around at the beginning of the [. . .]
novakant

Thank you. I would love to tinker with WP but have very little spare time at the moment, sorry.

No particular answers, just wanted to grumble.

+ OK made the font a little bigger. I totally agree with Michael, but the whole installation seems to have as its goal, keeping you as [. . .]
novakant

The font size is a bit too small for me. Otherwise all good.