by liberal japonicus
“Sometimes the shit comes down so heavy I feel like I should wear a hat.”- Ned Racine, Body Heat
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by liberal japonicus
“Sometimes the shit comes down so heavy I feel like I should wear a hat.”- Ned Racine, Body Heat
An open thread. Have at it.
So, I read the NRO article about Good belonging to ICE Watch. It includes a highly selective account of the events. Go figure.
Bullshit has eclipsed sensible discourse.
hsh – Well, sure. The question is – how many people are so motivated? I know this crew plays almost exclusively to their base, but everyone else is seeing it, too. Everyone, the base and otherwise, is seeing the other videos.
But Vance et al act as though the first-person video from the shooter is a slam dunk of some sort. Do they really believe that? Or is it just a performance to bolster the belief that it is in the minds of the willing?
At this point, given what we have observed over the last year, we should probably conclude that this administration and its supporters in Congress have become a revolutionary government. The loyal will support the revolution, and as long as the local and federal authorities continue to treat the administration as legitimate, they will be used as tools of the revolution. Any local or state opposition will be treated as an attack on the sovereignty of the president, and they will continue to wield the sanction of state violence against those people until they are forced to stop.
They believe that if they have 3% of the nation under arms for their side, they can force their will. Veterans and active duty military comprise 6% of the population, and nearly a quarter of all law enforcement. Military and law enforcement voted 70/30 in favor of Orange Julius. About a third of the US is still on board with all that the administration is doing.
A third of the population that contains two thirds of the people under arms in the nation is a potent revolutionary force.
We can vote them out, sure, but I think that will force a constitutional crisis with a lot of unknowns, and that revolutionary force will remain.
Here’s the other half of the revolutionary agenda that MAGA/P2025 is pursuing that will continue to obstruct any rebalancing that a flipped congress may attempt to legislate. It’s going to take years for this bolus to pass.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/us/politics/trumps-appeals-court-judges.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DlA.MMri.p_Ld7V7iZp4E&smid=url-share
Even if the Dems retake the reins in both the White House and Congress, these judges will be in place to flip this behavior and obstruct implementation of any counter-agenda.
This is why the Project 2025 crowd have continued to support this administration. Judges get lifetime appointments, and they are counting on their conservative Christian judges to prevent any socially liberal changes from being implemented, and to fast-track any dismantling of the changes they cannot prevent once the GOP manages to regain control of either of the other branches for however long.
MAGA/P2025 believe an alt-history version of the US where the founding fathers were Christian nationalist, and We the People refers only to the “legacy Americans” who are Judeo-Christian western civilization chauvinists. No one else deserves representation.
nous: Jesus. It’s really wrapped up tight….
Oh God again….
(I have had to take out all the clips, photos etc because links.)
Peter Tiel’s New Model Army
The Palantirisation of the UK military is a national security disaster
Carole Cadwalladr
Jan 11
This newsletter is going to cover three crucial subjects today:
How Britain’s national security is hopelessly compromised. We’ve sold out our military to a key Trump ally in what I believe is a catastrophically naive and dangerous deal. (If you’re American, this affects you too.)The global war on truth. And why sticking to the facts is now a radical act.How we fight back. In which I post a whole smorgasbord of inspiring videos that I grabbed off social media that you didn’t know you needed.I’ve never started with a bulleted list before but then I can’t remember a NATO country threatening to invade a NATO country before either. I figured you might need 3) after reading 1) and 2).
1) The UK’s national security is hopelessly compromisedThis morning, the BBC ran an interview with Peter Mandelson, the self-described ‘best pal’ of Jeffrey Epstein and until he was sacked, the UK ambassador to Washington.
Mandelson’s firm, Global Counsel, also represents Palantir, the US surveillance defence company founded by Trump ally, Peter Thiel. When Keir Starmer visited Washington, a trip arranged by Mandelson, he had only two meetings: one with Trump and one with Palantir.
If we never heard from Peter Mandelson again, it would be too soon. And yet here he is, all over the national broadcaster refusing to apologise to Epstein’s victims and praising Trump’s “graciousness”.
But this was not all. Because also on the BBC this morning was his client, Louis Mosley, the CEO of Palantir UK and the grandson of British fascist leader Oswald Mosley.
I’m not linking to either of these videos because they were both absolutely abject failures of journalism. This is the second time Mosley has been invited onto this same Sunday morning show as some sort of legitimate political pundit.
He is no such thing. His company is an integral part of the US defence and homeland security apparatus and the illegal data gathering operation carried out by Elon Musk’s DOGE to say nothing of its involvement in profiling kill targets for the IDF in Gaza. The only circumstance he should be on the BBC is to be subjected to a journalistic grilling, not asked a couple of softball questions on his views on global politics.
The UK Ministry of Defence has just signed a new £240 million contract with Palantir. Actually, it’s not a contract, it’s more than that. The UK government describes it as “a strategic partnership”. A “partnership” entered into without any sort of competitive tender that was announced during Trump’s visit to the UK and which disastrously compromises our entire national security infrastructure.
We have embedded a notorious US military surveillance company whose founder is a close ally of President Trump into the heart of our military at a moment in which the US is threatening to invade our NATO ally, Greenland.
If you’re British and reading this, please send it to your MP. The level of understanding in UK politics and media about Silicon Valley’s alliance with Trump and the geopolitical and security consequences of this appears to be non-existent.
If our national security rests on US technology, we have no national security.
It sounds like writerly hyperbole to describe the UK as a vassal state, but I mean it in its most literal sense. It’s explicitly stated in the ur-text of Trump’s White House’s foreign policy, the National Security Strategy document, that US companies will be used as instruments of state power. There is no hidden agenda here: Trump has set it all out. (For a breakdown of this document and what it all means, see this week’s piece in the Nerve by former British diplomat, Arthur Snell.)
What will it mean to embed American software into the UK military? Well consider, Tesla. You don’t really buy a car when you buy a Tesla, you rent the software that remains the property of Elon Musk industries who can choose to immobilise your car or any feature of it at any time.
Palantir is the most terrifying of the US companies but it’s also just one of a whole raft of compromising, self-sabotaging deals that the UK government has entered into. The UK ‘Sovereign Cloud’ has been contracted out to Oracle, owned by another key Trump ally, Larry Ellison, the man whose son is behind the disastrous buyout of CBS and the upcoming US TikTok takeover. And then there are deals with OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, Salesforce, Amazon, BlackRock, Nvidia and Scale AI.
And this was the “win”, the brilliant triumph that Keir Starmer pulled from the jaws of defeat in the trade tariff negotiations. It is the opposite of that: it’s surrender, the cost of which won’t just be measured in pounds or dollars. I fear the cost could be much, much higher, paid in blood and pain.
It barely even registered this week that Trump announced he was increasing the US military’s budget from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion.
I wrote this in last week’s newsletter, on Saturday morning, hours after the US attacked Venezuela and before America woke up:
Trump’s actions should provoke a global crisis, I said. And it should worry us more if it doesn’t. A week later, the news is in: prepare to be more worried
2) The global war on truth..and what it means when your own PM joins itI’m posting this interview between Gary Gibbons of Channel 4 News and Keir Starmer on Monday because it feels like a crucial moment that we should footnote and mark.
Starmer, an international human rights lawyer, is unable to say the attack on Venezuela was in breach of international law. This is the leader of a G7 nation, unable to confirm that black is black and white is white.
All week, pundits in the UK media have wanged on about how Starmer couldn’t have his “Hugh Grant moment” – a reference to the scene in Love Actually in which he Prime Minister Grant stands up to President Billy Bob Thornton (after seeing him making moves on his lady crush) and missed the far bigger point.
It’s the same pundits and journalists who applauded Starmer’s actions in sucking up to Trump, laying on a state visit, a royal banquet, the full works and celebrating the “win”, a deal that didn’t land Britain with a disastrous trade tariff.
But what they failed to point out is that Starmer paid Trump’s ransom – the disastrous, self-sabotaging tech deals detailed above. It’s not that Starmer risks “offending” Trump or is “caught in a bind” or “is in a tricky position” or any of the other phrases I’ve read and heard all week, it’s that he – and we – have been captured.
These deals represent the corporate capture of the UK state including, our cloud capacity, National Health Service, and now our military establishment. And the blindness, ignorance and ongoing denial is the most dangerous thing about this moment.
Starmer’s inability to speak the truth is not diplomacy. It’s evidence.
We are now a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Trump fascist project. We’ve sold out everyone in America who’s trying to fight back against it. Worst of all, we can’t even see it yet.
I’m not using the f-word lightly or facetiously. I’ve avoided it for a year. But what is so dangerous right now is the assault on truth, on facts, on the evidence of our own eyes. What is happening right now in America is fascism. And we, the UK, are now up to our necks in it too.
3) How to fight backCongratulations! You’ve got through the depressing bit of the newsletter. This last section is a compendium of clips and images that I’ve seen this week that is the evidence you need that nothing is hopeless.
This is Jacob Frey, mayor of Minneapolis. He’s using the f-word too.
A masked paramilitary gunman murdered a Minneapolis citizen in cold blood, and this is what the city’s mayor told ICE at his press conference. “Get the fuck out of Minneapolis.”
It’s a painful contrast to Keir Starmer and a necessary corrective. What Trump is doing is meant to scare us. And not being scared, speaking the facts, taking the piss and recording it all on your phone are all radical acts. All week, I’ve been collecting individual responses to hard power ranging from the courageous to the creative to the comedic.
I loved this footage of an Uber driver that embodies all three of these qualities. Watch him taking on US border guards who asked to see his ID. Why, he asks them? You have an accent, one of them says. “You’re going by accents now?” he says incredulously. “You guys need psychiatric checkups,” he tells them when they ask where he was born. He satirically taunts them until they eventually give up.
This was how London greeted the news of the Venezuela strike. A “nonce” is Britspeak for “paedophile”.
I also loved and admired this woman’s response to ICE agents who stopped to threaten and intimidate her for following their vehicle. I don’t want you to make a bad decision, the ICE agent tells her. “That’s funny coming from you!” she says smiling away at him.
And this is another brilliant official, Rochelle Bilal, the sheriff of Philadelphia, pointing out all the ways that the actions of the ICE agent who shot Renee Nicole Good were in violation of both “legal law” and “moral law”. ICE, she said, was “made-up, fake, wannabe law enforcement”.
I know, I know, this is probably too much content. But consider this a public service, I’m saving you from the algorithmic scroll which threw up this for me: Canadian comedian Trent McClellan dressed up as a NICE agent to terrorise tourists in Halifax. His weapons are Canadian-levels of courtesy and free candy. It’s from two months ago but I only just clocked it and I think it’s a really useful reminder that none of this is normal. This is normal:
Finally, it’s been extraordinary to witness what’s happening on the streets of Iran. You’ll have seen the incredible rivers of protestors flooding the streets of cities all across the country. That’s what people power looks like. Is it finally the revolution that Iranians have been longing for? The world is holding its breath.
I’m not sure who this woman is but this week’s newsletter is dedicated to her and the people of Iran and, especially, the incredible, gutsy, powerful women who have simply had enough.
Thank you to everyone who’s reading this. It’s one of my own personal rays of hope. If you like it, please share it with your friends and family and tell me in the comments whether I’m right, wrong, too doomery, not doomery enough, whether you like the vids and anything else that strikes you.
A modest proposal:
When your personal wealth reaches a billion dollars, you are required to move to the seasteading platform of your choice. Your citizenship likewise transfers to the seasteading platform.
Optionally, you can move to Greenland.
Enjoy the fish!
GtNC is scaring the crap out of me.
A million years ago when I was, oh, about twenty I can remember being very afraid of the year 2000. I thought by then 1984 would be true plus global warming. I thought that the death would come of everything I love: nature, animals, free thought…and I thought the killer would be the substitution of international corporations for national governments. Oceania, etc. with the real decisions made in board rooms.
I was also scared to death of getting old.
I comforted myself with the thought that I would die just about the time everything I care about dies. I think I am right about that, though off by about 25 years.
Well, I’m certainly starting the new year off on a happy note! Sorry about that. I guess I need to buy some hydrangeas.
The irony of Dear Leader’s criticisms of the Iranian regime’s crackdowns on protesters is pungent.
…and I thought the killer would be the substitution of international corporations for national governments.
And AIs will be running the corporations. 🙂 But I think both the AI Boomers and Doomers are overestimating how much change there will be in the next few years. The Boomers are predicting some massive changes for just this year.
Charles WT – have you read the BJ AI series that Carlo Graziani authored?
https://balloon-juice.com/category/science-and-technology/artificial-intelligence-carlo/
[Should be read, and not just left to an LLM to synopsize 😉 ]
Some current quotes from GOPsters:
(via maddowblog)
Republican Rep. Roger Williams of Texas, for example, appeared on NewsNation just two days after Good’s death and told viewers, “People need to quit demonstrating, quit yelling at law enforcement, challenging law enforcement, and begin to get civil. And until we do that, I guess we’re going to have it this way. And the people that are staying in their homes or doing the right thing need to be protected.”
A fellow Texan, GOP Rep. Wesley Hunt, also told Newsmax last week, “The bottom line is this: When a federal officer gives you instructions, you abide by them and then you get to keep your life.”
>The Boomers are predicting some massive changes for just this year.
of course they are. without promises of Wonders, the bubble will burst.
At first Fox was blaming all the disruptions on Antifa, but after this weekend the new Enemy of the People is “organized gangs of wine moms.”
Everyone please update your codices accordingly. This has been your Two Minutes of Hate.
“Summary execution is to be expected.”
The more I think about Nicole Good’s killing, the more it looks like a setup to me.
1 – Why do the ICE officers interact with Good at all instead of driving around her and going on their way (to round up more “illegals” – their purported purpose), which is obviously possible, both around the front and rear of her SUV?
2 – Why does Ross walk to the front of the running SUV in the first place?
3 – Why doesn’t Ross get out of the way as soon as the SUV first moves (backwards, mind you – not toward him)?
4 – After failing at #2, why doesn’t Ross get out of the way when Good turns her steering wheel to the right, indicating an intention to drive away?
The notion that she was trying to run him over is silly. If that were the case, why did she back up instead of going straight at him? Why did she turn her steering wheel hard to the right even though he was standing toward the left of the SUV from her perspective?
I’m not saying they necessarily were doing it with the goal of shooting her dead. Maybe they just wanted an excuse to arrest her, even though they really should be calling Minneapolis PD, since doing so isn’t immigration enforcement. As it turned out, Ross found an excuse to shoot her three times at close range, killing her without anyone from ICE appearing a bit bothered by it.
“F**king b*tch!”
Should be read, and not just left to an LLM to synopsize
I’ve read some of it.
Grok gives the series good marks with minor quibbles.
AI Critique: Hype, Limitations, Future
Grok 5 is scheduled to drop sometime this quarter. It’s reported to be twice as large and 50% more capable than the current model.
I’m not a mind reader, so I don’t know the true answer to all of this.
That said, there is this:
https://hejon07.substack.com/p/the-man-who-learned-to-stop-worrying
A perfect storm of bad decisions on both sides, starting with the agents screaming at her and grabbing her door instead of de-escalating by approaching her calmly.
Both sides? One side is working in a professional capacity with state sanction. The other side is dead.
I supposed the dead side could be said to have made a bad decision based on the erroneous assumption that the decision wasn’t anything the other side would kill her over.
The professional side looks to have made a good decision (for them) that resulted in a desirable (to them) outcome.
Both sides…
From here:
https://www.newsweek.com/former-ice-agents-break-down-jonathan-rosss-actions-11334133
The “L shape” thing caught my eye so I consulted our friend Dr. Google. It’s a military ambush tactic, meant to trap an enemy in a crossfire.
ICE is using military tactics in a civilian context. That is going to continue to get people killed.
It needs to be shut down. I don’t know who has the authority or the juice to make that happen, but until it does, people are going to continue to get killed.
I’ll add that my niece works as a nurse in Phoenix AZ. She has contact with ICE and/or CBP officers who bring immigrants to the hospital, as well as with the folks they bring in.
In general, she says, the officers are kind to the folks they are handling. She hasn’t met that many – 10 or 12? – but that’s the pattern. So at least some of these people have retained some degree of their own humanity. That, perhaps, offers a path to de-escalating some of this bullshit. Things are so polarized that I don’t how anyone. can make the kind of contact that would allow that to happen, but it is, perhaps, helpful to recognize that not all of these people are utter monsters.
Some no doubt are. And the prisons – the for-profit prisons – where the immigrants are being held suck.
This is the most fucked-up situation I’ve seen in my lifetime. Which includes some truly fucked-up times.
I don’t know how we get out of it. Even if Trump keeled over dead tomorrow, the whole MAGA crazy train has been unleashed and it’s not going anywhere.
In the words of Good’s widow, we have whistles but they have guns.
The irony of Dear Leader’s criticisms of the Iranian regime’s crackdowns on protesters is pungent.
As is the enthusiastic support by the party which has always justified America’s gun laws by the hypothetical need to have the means to defend oneself if a tyrannical government goes after the people.
GtNC is scaring the crap out of me.
Sorry, wonkie – I was pretty damn scared myself when I read that. I’m just hoping Carole Cadwalladr went a bit over the top about it, but we shall see by other reactions.
A couple of vignettes from MAGA land:
https://youtube.com/shorts/0mB1sPCI5rA?si=x2aFSBdH76HRJ-m-
Hard to tell whether the ICE thugs are snickering under their masks in that one. And here’s what non-murderous ICE “agents” are like:
https://youtube.com/shorts/7Wrl2q_5vP4?si=IzLF_-FoK-bbQXP2
Whether He, Trump enables shitheads, or vice versa, I don’t know. What’s pretty certain is that shitheads and billionaires are both happy with the MAGA reich.
–TP
I think it’s useful to distinguish between those ICE officers who have been hired under Trump and those who were not. The group who were hired under Trump are pretty uniformly scum who ought to be booted out as soon as possible. (With criminal charges where those can be sustained.)
The other group probably includes some bad apples. But the majority should be assumed to be normal people, absent evidence otherwise in specific cases.
I know it’s tempting to generalize. (“All ICE agents are horrible!” “All white people are racists!” etc.) But it is not helpful if the goal is to solve a problem, or change a behavior which some of the group is engaging in.
I’m under the impression that US Border Patrol in particular has always been a Hive of Scum and Villainy (thank you Obi Wan).
I know that there are humanitarian groups working along the southern border to provide water and other humanitarian aid to undeclared migrants in distress, and that BP has been known to destroy their caches when they find them (for one example).
I think ICE has been less gleefully punitive in their policy as an institution than has BP, but that may also be a product of my selection process for reading, so…
As is the enthusiastic support by the party which has always justified America’s gun laws by the hypothetical need to have the means to defend oneself if a tyrannical government goes after the people.
By the way, in case this wasn’t clear, I meant the GOP’s “enthusiastic support” of the ICE project!
More fun!:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-administration-posts-echo-rhetoric-linked-to-extremist-groups
The song in question having been recorded by right wing folkish Odinists – the neo-pagan equivalent of the Christian Identity lowlife that were so prevalent in the MI militia scene that gave us OK City.
wj: I think it’s useful to distinguish between those ICE officers who have been hired under Trump and those who were not.
nous: I’m under the impression that US Border Patrol in particular has always been a Hive of Scum and Villainy
My take is that the history of the two agencies comes into play. It’s a bit convoluted, but my take is that ICE is fundamentally a post 9-11 creature, being spun off when the INS was reorganized under Homeland Security (and everyone may want to reflect on what they said about the whole idea of ‘Homeland Security’. If you engaged in hippy punching when people complained about how words like this could lead to bad outcomes, you may want to rethink your prior opinions) The Border Patrol was under INS, with roots back to 1924, and was also spun off, but seems to have a longer history to fall back on.
This has me think that the Border Patrol has its prejudices baked in, but ICE is more of a res nova. CBP were (or are, hard to tell these days) limited to performing duties within 100 miles of the border and were often called on to work with the DEA for drug smuggling. I was pretty surprised when I looked at Wikipedia and read this
As early as 1998, the former Immigration and Naturalization Service implemented the Border Safety Initiative in response to concerns about the number of aliens injured or killed while attempting to cross the border. It was noted that Border Patrol agents routinely supplied water, food, and medical care to aliens.[48] That same year, Border Patrol, Search, Trauma and Rescue (BORSTAR), a specialized unit trained in emergency search and rescue, was established with the purpose of assisting injured or stranded aliens at remote locations.
However, the stories of the Border Patrol destroying survival caches is also well documented, which strikes me as bureaucratic behavior (‘we will save them, but only on our terms!’ sort of shit)
ICE was also spun off from INS, but consisted of the criminal investigators as opposed to border security and port of entry. I imagine this creates a different mindset which, added to the lack of any geographical restriction invites a grander mindset.
I think this ends up with ICE being more performative. Of course, for CBP, you have Homan and Bovino, while ICE is more often represented by Noem, so I guess 6 of 1. But reports of Stephen Millier making demands about quotas are addressed to ICE as opposed to CBP. It’s probably a lot easier to bend the rules when you don’t have so much to fall back on.
In regard to wj’s pleas to consider the good ICE agents, I’m thinking that deTrumpification is going to demand that everyone been tossed out. For example, Ross, who is the person who has been identified as murdering Nicole Good, was originally in the CBP for 10 years before moving to ICE in 2015.
I read this book about the border militias back when it first came out as part of a research project that I put on hiatus in favor of more focus on environmentalism and climate change.
https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/the-law-into-their-own-hands
I think the ICE and BP recruiting campaign under this administration is squarely aimed at bringing these border militias and the other racist/nativist paramilitary groups into the federal law enforcement community.
It also fits well with all of the recruitment that the alt-right and the white power folks and the Christian nationalist were doing with veterans and law enforcement. There’s a lot of snuggling up going on.
“But it is not helpful if the goal is to solve a problem, or change a behavior which some of the group is engaging in.”
as far as i can see, all there are are masked thugs doing thuggish things with the full backing of a gang of thuggish morons, who were elected by drooling wannabe thugs.
the good apples should try to show off all the good stuff they’re doing.
Certainly there is an enormous amount of that on the streets. But that behavior inevitable gets a lot more attention. Just as a riot which extends across a half dozen city blocks, in a city of several million, is all you will see on the news.
But consider the last time you arrived on an international flight. The guy doing customs inspections was also ICE (customs enforcement, right?). But, at least in my observation, those folks are courteous and polite to everybody, regardless of how they look or what their proficiency in English. If all of ICE was the thugs, I’d expect something less.