Weekend music thread #03 Rhumba and the clave

by russell

Last Friday, Joe put up a post about Bad Bunny. That led to a discussion of reggaeton, which took a side trip into rhumba, which sent me off down a rabbit hole about clave.

Joe very kindly asked if he could use my comment as this week’s music post, which was more than cool with me. But I thought it might be good to expand it a bit, and in particular to include something that would let you all hear the rhythms involved.

So, here we go.

Clave refers to a family of rhythms that provide the organizing principle of the music of the African Diaspora, and in particular in the Caribbean basin. Cuba, Puerto Rico, a lot of South America, Brazil, New Orleans. The music is constructed by multiple interlocking parts that all stand in some rhythmic relation to the underlying clave rhythm. They aren’t necessarily the same as the clave, but they relate to the clave rhythm in some audible way. These various parts may come and go, may shift and change, but the clave DOES NOT CHANGE.

This idea – the concept of a small rhythmic cell as the organizing principle of a piece of music – is ubiquitous in the musics of sub-Saharan Africa. The particular clave rhythms found in Afro-Cuban music are largely derived from a common African bell pattern typically known as bembe. Here is a short-ish video of me yapping away and walking through the evolution of bembe to the son and rhumba claves in Cuba with some stream of consciousness side trips.

And yeah, I pretty much talk like that. Tie my hands down and I am mute.

As I mention in the video, the rhythms that are used in this way – whether in Africa or the Caribbean – are examples of Euclidean rhythms. Very very briefly, a Euclidean rhythm is one in which the beats are distributed as evenly as possible across the underlying grid or pulse, in ways which can be analyzed in terms of the greatest common divisor between the number of cells in the grid and the number of strokes played.

Math nerds represent! Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_rhythm

An excellent video explanation, except for the… musical mistakes (smh):

The analysis has given rise to a plethora of software modules that will algorithmically generate “world music rhythms”, but humans have been playing these for thousands of years. Bang two sticks together, and Bob’s your uncle. But I digress…

So here is what this stuff sounds like in actual music.

Bembe, as it shows up in Abakua, a folkloric music and dance style. Listen to the bell:

A very folkloric version of guaguanco, one of the three traditional rhumba styles. The guy hitting two sticks (the sticks are also called “claves”) together at the beginning is playing the clave, which at first sounds (to me) like son, but then seems to turn into rhumba. This is a pretty good example of the time feel being in the cracks between duple and triple meter. Sounds “sloppy” in a way, but these guys know exactly what they’re doing. Listen to how the rhythm played on the bamboo tube (the “guagua”) locks in with clave:

A less folkloric but still pretty rootsy guaguano featuring the great Orlanda “Puntilla” Rios, a commanding figure in the Caribbean / New York nexus. Rios is also known for his mastery of bata oro seco, the magisterial drums-and-voice-only liturgical music of santeria. Guaguanco is also a dance, where the man tries to win over the woman with his skillful hip thrusts and steal her hankie. Don’t ask me, I’m just reporting the facts. I love this video, and when they break into the call-and-answer stuff at about 4:30 and the dancers get up, it gotta say it lifts my heart, no matter how many times I watch this.

A rhumba Yambu, another of the traditional rhumba styles. Yambu is another couples dance, but slower, more fluid and graceful, and with no stealing of hankies.

Rhumba Columbia, the third of the traditional rhumba styles. Faster, rhumba clave, more of a triple feel. The dance for Columbia is basically the guys showing off. Yes, it’s a macho culture.

A straight up salsa classic, “Pedro Navaja” by the great Ruben Blades. You’ll hear a very clear son clave played by the keyboard player starting about 16 seconds in. At about 1:15 you’ll see the bass player and timbale player clap out the clave to basically school somebody who has the clave backward, i.e., they’re playing the 2 part where the 3 part should be and vice versa. That is THE CARDINAL SIN of Latin music performance, basically the equivalent of clapping on 1 and 3. The “Mack The Knife” thing Blades does at the beginning is because “Pedro Navaja” is basically the Mack The Knife story in Spanish. “Pedro Navaja” translates to “Peter the Blade”.

I pretty much love Latin music.

https://www.cubanet.org/htdocs/CNews/y00/jun00/12e9.htm#:~:text=Cuba%20News-,NY%20Times,June%2011%2C%202000

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Liberal Japonicus
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1 month ago

Muchísimas gracias, Russell! I accidentally left the link in at the bottom, as I thought I was going to add to Russell’s post, but thought better of it, but will leave it there cause I think it will be of interest

Another article that I remember had me wondering about how this clave thing worked was this
Article Title: The Clave: Tricky Latin Rhythm, Hard to Master
Author: Robert Palmer
Publication: The New York Times
Corrected Date/Section: October 5, 1980, Section D, Page 22

which now seems to have disappeared from the NYT archive (thanks to GftNC for looking!) If anyone else wants to apply their google-fu to finding it, in my memory, it is definitely worth a read. It gives the anecdote of one band having to re-record an entire album because they had reversed the clave. Ouch!

But watching Russell’s explanation above, I realized that the clave is not something you can read about and figure out, you actually have to have two things to bang together. I’m slightly closer to understanding it, but since there is not a lot of Latin music jams out here in rural Japan, I’m afraid that like a lot of my other desires, it is going to be an unrequited love,,,

GftNC
1 month ago

Oh my God, the surprise of seeing your own video explanation, russell! I wish you could have seen my smile of pleasure and delight to see you and hear you sounding as cool, knowledgeable and just plain nice as you do in writing! Thank you! And I have just watched, also with great pleasure, the Rumba en Atares guaguanco video too, what a mood enhancer. I’m going to hold off on watching the rest because I’m pretty flu-ridden, and need to go lie down, but I’m on for it tomorrow.

On the Robert Palmer piece I searched for lj, I definitely did as thorough a search as I could. But on the other hand, I also definitely have limited ability in these kinds of things (as I have proved to myself many times), so somebody else with an NYT sub (or more advanced google-fu) might do better. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

russell
russell
1 month ago

Thanks for putting this up, LJ! And thanks for adding the cubanet link, it’s great reading.

We were supposed to go hear these fine folks this evening, but their visas were denied or cancelled.

As an aside, this is why we can’t have nice things, episode 1,832,782. 🙁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN_iMIvPHLc

These folks are not at all traditional, more of a Cuban chamber music ensemble, if you will. But rumba is in almost everything Cuban, one way or another. Certainly everything that isn’t purely or primarily European in origin. Espirales (the folks in the video) seem to bring an interesting blend of Euro and trad.

I think a way to think about rumba in Cuba is to compare it to blues in the US. Originally a folkloric style rising out of the people of the African diaspora, but working its way into every nook and cranny of American popular and traditional musics.

It is the demotic musical language of Cuba.

Good weekend to you all, and no worries if the videos make you dance around the room a bit. 🙂

nous
nous
1 month ago

Good stuff. You wouldn’t think it of a metalhead like me, but bembe is close to my heart as well. Opeth, the band that I got some of ObWi hooked on a while back, was notable for being a Swedish metal band with a latin rhythm section. Both the drummer, Martin Lopez, and the bassists Martin Mendez, were Uruguayan. (Well, Lopez was born in Sweden to Uruguayan parents, and lived there for a time. Mendez emigrated to Sweden when he was 17.) All of the 6/8 feel stuff that Opeth plays starting on My Arms, Your Hearse through Ghost Reveries were given pulse by Lopez and Mendez playing bembe influenced heavy rhythms to the point where even after Lopez left the group, Mikael Åkerfeldt, the main songwriter, was still writing Afro-Caribbean inflected rhythmic sections. He even had Alex Acuña play percussion on one song on the album they did right after Lopez left the band.

Bembe is what gives Opeth’s brutal passages that groove that few other metal bands can find. Sepultura and Gojira get it, but Sepultura is Brazillan and Gojira are French eco-activists who do tons of work in the Amazon basin and that has bled over into Mario’s drumming.

Liberal Japonicus
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1 month ago

Fair warning! If anyone posts a comment about a music topic they like with a couple of youtube video links, it is liable to be front paged! You have been warned!!!

`wonkie
`wonkie
1 month ago

Fascinating. I don’t think I get it–I’m sure I don’t–but you have helped me have a deeper appreciation both historically and in terms of the intricacy. I think people who grow up with this have very different “ears” than the more simple and melodic music that I understand.

russell
russell
1 month ago

OK, now I gotta check Opeth!

Bembe is kind of the mother lode of hypnotic, trance-inducing rhythms. It embodies that polyrhythmic “is it in 2 or 3?” thing that draws you in with its ambiguity.

I have a long list of retirement projects that I hope to get to before I peg out. One of them is working through a short book of exercises based on the bembe bell pattern by Boston area drummer Jerry Leake, who has made a kind of one-man cottage industry of teaching people to work and play with multi-layered rhythms.

Here’s Jerry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G0qZsW481g

The pagan feminist author and teacher Miriam Simos (aka Starhawk) has said that magic is the “art of changing consciousness at will”. I’ve found music to be one of the available vehicles for that.

cleek
1 month ago

fantastic stuff, russell. thanks!

nous
nous
1 month ago
nous
nous
1 month ago

And here’s Sepultura in their full Afro Caribbean mode back in 1996:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YUJit9iNE0

GftNC
1 month ago

I feel pretty much the same as wonkie just upthread. Maybe it’s age-related in me, I can hear the clave when it is isolated out, but actually in the music I don’t hear it. On the other hand, that doesn’t stop me really enjoying the music, and if I didn’t feel so under the weather I might even have danced around the room a bit!

hairshirthedonist
hairshirthedonist
1 month ago

And here’s Sepultura in their full Afro Caribbean mode back in 1996

CDs are very durable, because I should have worn all the bits off my “Roots” CD years ago.

Last edited 1 month ago by hairshirthedonist
hairshirthedonist
hairshirthedonist
1 month ago

I’m surprised that the formalized concept of Euclidean rhythms didn’t come about until 2004. It’s like someone just last week being the first to recognize that people sit on chairs.

bc
bc
1 month ago

Russell: Loved this. And so fun “meeting” you in your element. Music really is the universal language.

But now I’m seeing your hands every time I read one of your comments, lol.