Why not let him speak for himself? If by "what happened" CharlesWT meant "Jonathan Ross shot Renee Good in fit of fascist pique", then maybe he was.
Michael Cain: ICE believes they are law enforcement. So far, the courts seem to agree with them. ... I’m slightly amazed that we know who the ICE person behind the mask was.
I say "ICE believes" that they are The Law, but never mind. I'm sincerely curious about the courts. Are there particular cases you're thinking of? (This is not a "cite, please"; I can look things up myself if I have a hint to start with.) It would not surprise me, BTW, if some court somewhere ruled that ICE "agents", do in fact have the authority to write traffic tickets as "LEOs".
On a general note, "LEO" always sounds to my ear like "WMD" -- a conflation of disparate things for propaganda purposes.
--TP
2 weeks ago
CharlesWT: There’s a reason for LEOs to wear body cams. Had he been wearing one, it might be clearer exactly what happened.
"LEOs" and storm troopers are not the same thing.
"LEOs" don't wear masks.
"LEOs" have limits on their authority and their jurisdiction.
"LEOs" who work for ICE don't have the authority to write you so much as a parking ticket, let alone order you out of your car.
"LEOs" do things like execute arrest warrants, not execute civilians.
If it's not clear to you "what happened", seek help. If you think the murderous Jonathan Ross was just trying to do his job, ask your favorite AI what his assigned job was, that day, because I doubt that body cam footage would tell you.
I'm sure there were Americans in the 1930s who would have defined the Gestapo as "Law Enforcement Officers", but I like to think those Americans would not have called themselves Libertarians(TM).
Having contributed money to all sorts of Dems over the years, I am bombarded with fundraising emails, texts, and the occasional phone call even. I'm sure many of you are in the same boat. So I'm asking for advice here:
Is there an effective way to communicate to candidates begging for "help to meet our goal before the FCC deadline tomorrow" and similar pitches? Specifically, to say something like "Publicly and loudly declare that deMAGAfication is your first priority, and then you get my support"?
I know campaigns need money to "get their message out" but if it's a namby-pamby let's-not-offend-anybody consultant-generated message, they can kiss my ass.
wj: Charles was actually agreeing with you.
Why not let him speak for himself? If by "what happened" CharlesWT meant "Jonathan Ross shot Renee Good in fit of fascist pique", then maybe he was.
Michael Cain: ICE believes they are law enforcement. So far, the courts seem to agree with them. ... I’m slightly amazed that we know who the ICE person behind the mask was.
I say "ICE believes" that they are The Law, but never mind. I'm sincerely curious about the courts. Are there particular cases you're thinking of? (This is not a "cite, please"; I can look things up myself if I have a hint to start with.) It would not surprise me, BTW, if some court somewhere ruled that ICE "agents", do in fact have the authority to write traffic tickets as "LEOs".
As for the outing of Jonathan Ross, it was Kristi Noem that did it. He may be grateful for that, BTW.
On a general note, "LEO" always sounds to my ear like "WMD" -- a conflation of disparate things for propaganda purposes.
--TP
CharlesWT: There’s a reason for LEOs to wear body cams. Had he been wearing one, it might be clearer exactly what happened.
"LEOs" and storm troopers are not the same thing.
"LEOs" don't wear masks.
"LEOs" have limits on their authority and their jurisdiction.
"LEOs" who work for ICE don't have the authority to write you so much as a parking ticket, let alone order you out of your car.
"LEOs" do things like execute arrest warrants, not execute civilians.
If it's not clear to you "what happened", seek help. If you think the murderous Jonathan Ross was just trying to do his job, ask your favorite AI what his assigned job was, that day, because I doubt that body cam footage would tell you.
I'm sure there were Americans in the 1930s who would have defined the Gestapo as "Law Enforcement Officers", but I like to think those Americans would not have called themselves Libertarians(TM).
--TP
A couple of vignettes from MAGA land:
https://youtube.com/shorts/0mB1sPCI5rA?si=x2aFSBdH76HRJ-m-
Hard to tell whether the ICE thugs are snickering under their masks in that one. And here's what non-murderous ICE "agents" are like:
https://youtube.com/shorts/7Wrl2q_5vP4?si=IzLF_-FoK-bbQXP2
Whether He, Trump enables shitheads, or vice versa, I don't know. What's pretty certain is that shitheads and billionaires are both happy with the MAGA reich.
--TP
Having contributed money to all sorts of Dems over the years, I am bombarded with fundraising emails, texts, and the occasional phone call even. I'm sure many of you are in the same boat. So I'm asking for advice here:
Is there an effective way to communicate to candidates begging for "help to meet our goal before the FCC deadline tomorrow" and similar pitches? Specifically, to say something like "Publicly and loudly declare that deMAGAfication is your first priority, and then you get my support"?
I know campaigns need money to "get their message out" but if it's a namby-pamby let's-not-offend-anybody consultant-generated message, they can kiss my ass.
So: any suggestions?
--TP