I was just teaching my son who just discovered music about playing on top of the beat vs. behind, etc.
The force is strong with this one!!! An advanced topic for a youngster - does your son play an instrument, or is he just listening? Not a complaint, but in reality this just isn't possible.
You could be right.
:(
"Conservative lurkers, c'mon in! Just don't be jerks. We'll try not to be, too"
Not a complaint, but in reality this just isn't possible. The subjects are too polarized, it's too easy to lose perspective. Both sides. It is the nature of the Trump age,anyone conservative agrees with enough of his policies to be branded with both his policies and his psychopathy.
The hatred for those is so understandable as to make defending the smaller pieces not worthwhile.
I am just hoping we get to have midterm elections.
TP: Thanks, and back at you.
russell: a day or two late and therefore considerably out of the pocket so to speak, but I’ve appreciated your insights into Ringo (there was a past conversation I recall). I was just teaching my son who just discovered music about playing on top of the beat vs. behind, etc. He listened because it was on one of “his” songs and he really liked the song and didn’t know why that particular part had such good energy.
I’m listening to “Love” for the first time (came with a bunch of CD’s from an estate sale) on my “new” high-end vintage CD player on a good system. I know it’s probably sacrilegious but I rather like the mix.
“ bookmarked Ian Welch's blog some years ago, but rarely visit. He is not my kind of lefty. He makes my head hurt.”
I fall about halfway between him and the LGM lefties. They both irritate me in different ways. But you learn things from reading all sorts.
On the issue, I don’t think he is saying that we should exist in a strictly cash economy and if he did say that this would be dumb. But I think he is pointing to a new way for governments to crack down on dissent. Not that he is the first by any means.
Just to be clear, my point wasn't about using cryptocurrency, it was about the fact that a government has to control transactions for a number of reasons that are necessary and working with my student about how the EU is looking at controlling cryptocurrency suggests you are going to have the ways to control that will end up like Chekhov's gun.
I don't think it is realistic to expect nations to simply stay with cash money.
These days the vast majority of currency transactions are electronic. I doubt anyone (outside the looney far right, and not most even there) expect or want that to change. Cash (paper) can be handy for small transactions. But nobody uses it much for legal transactions over $100.
But crypto is a whole different deal. It's great for illegal transactions, or for evading taxes. And, if you get in early, it's an effective "bigger idiot" vehicle. But legitimate uses? No so much.
It may be possible to regulate it to the point that it's useful. But I haven't seen any even halfway plausible ideas for doing so.
I hadn't seen or didn't remember Ian Welch. The information about Hüseyin Doğru (love the diacritics!) is interesting, but I'm working online with a masters student who is researching how cryptocurrency legislation should be handled and Welch is not really thinking why the German government can do what it can. Like Donald, I don't know anything about the case, but I don't think it is realistic to expect nations to simply stay with cash money. One thing I like about Japan is that it is much more a cash economy than what Germany sounds like, but it's not clear to me if he wants Germany to be more like Japan, which I guess he imagines would clear up the problem, or wants the Government to put some guardrails because that will deal with the problem? It's not really clear.
Here's a website where Hüseyin Doğru is discussing it https://diem25.org/en/author/huseyin-dogru/
But I can't get the page to load.
Donald, I should say I know nothing of Hüseyin Doğru— never heard of him before.
Wasn't he Kim Jong Il's caddy when he shot 36 under par in one round of golf?
Juche!
I bookmarked Ian Welch's blog some years ago, but rarely visit. He is not my kind of lefty. He makes my head hurt.
bc: Lastly, in order to attract conservatives, IMHO, you have to at least want to hear another point of view.
Good to see you again, bc!
Put me down as definitely wanting to hear "another point of view" on any topic at all. Also put me down as willing to challenge any point of view -- time permitting, and if I feel like it.
Is it possible that, unlike you, some conservatives find it frustrating to be challenged when they set forth their "point of view" on ObWi? I mean, "hearing" and "accepting" are different things. Any posted comment is "heard" in a literal(-ish) sense. If it elicits no response, would that be less, or more, frustrating than a bunch of replies "refuting" it?
Hoping you pop up more often, and bring friends with you:)
--TP
Richards and Willie Nelson seem to have inherited the mantle of the Betty White jokes. "Shouldn't someone be worrying about the kind of world our kids will leave for Keith and Willie?"
From back when HP made quality stuff, not just crappy printers.
Sometime while I was in graduate school (Texas, 1976-78) I went to one of HP's sales pitches for their engineering calculators. At one point the salesman asked if there were any petroleum engineering students in the crowd and got several hands up. "You, my friends, will someday soon be walking along a catwalk and drop your calculator, watch it bounce twice, go over the edge, and fall 20 feet to the ground. What will you have if that's a Texas Instruments calculator? Pieces." Then he wound up and throw the HP calculator hard enough to bounce it off the back wall. "With an HP, you'll just yell down and ask your buddy to pick up your calculator."
Keith Richards has been undead since the '80s. He's keeping that phylactery safe and hidden.
That or Brian Jones gave him a ring for his birthday back in 1969.
Death by drowning...hmmm...
...there may be quite a few rotary phone fans waiting for a spiritual home!
You can take my rotary phone after you pull my cold, dead finger out of the dialer!
I've been reading about Neanderthals for the escapism. One difference between them and homo sapiens is the lack of visual art and, with a very notable exception, the apparent lack of sites for religious rituals.
Lack of a site doesn't mean there was no religion and no ceremonies, of course, and Neanderthals did make aesthetic designs both in the form of jewelry (shell necklaces) and in marks on some of their tools--though the marks are just straight lines in limited patterns.
Still there seems to be a difference in mind. What this means, I don't know.
I do like the idea of a thousand (liberal) churches blooming!
But the point of a church endorsing candidates/parties is that its congregants then vote, as a bloc, as their church tells them to vote.
The Sacred Assembly of the Mechanical Pencil probably doesn't have enough adherents to constitute a voting bloc.
Perhaps a "Sacred Assembly of Really Cool Mechanical Tools No Longer in General Use"? You could get the self-propelling pencil folks, and the people who still love their Texas Instruments calculators, their slide rules, and anyone who still knows what a protractor is, and there may be quite a few rotary phone fans waiting for a spiritual home!
In the other hand, getting yourself officially designated as a church is pretty straightforward.
John Oliver did.
But I expect that the IRS (and SCOTUS) will come up with loopholes to the loopholes, although not necessarily of the blatant 'Islam is not a religion' kind that some Kristians(TM) and GOPsters try to push.
Russell is a lot like Hilzoy
Yikes! Are you sure you have the right (R)russell?
You are very kind, bc. I appreciate this, although I doubt I live up to it. If this is a suggestion that we should have political shibboleths for commentators, I'm against it.
Pretty much my feeling also. And I think the suggestion of "just don't engage" is also fine. I know there are certain topics that I'm just not interested in discussing.
The folks that we exclude from here tend to be folks (on either - or any - side of the fence) who are rude or offensive, in whatever way. And we generally give folks ample warning before they get bumped - most of the folks that have been banned have shown that they simply refuse to stop doing whatever it is we've asked them (usually repeatedly) to stop doing.
I'm not sure anyone has been banned simply for their opinion, per se.
Conservative lurkers, c'mon in! Just don't be jerks. We'll try not to be, too.
I just started the Sacred Assembly of the Mechanical Pencil. We meet at 3:30 AM every third Wednesday if anyone is interested. One stipulation is that you have to be able to do The Worm.
The headline leaves out the even more scandalous part: ONLY churches, not other tax exempt entities. Those still have to obey the rule of either partisan or tax exempt but not both at the same time.
In the other hand, getting yourself officially designated as a church is pretty straightforward. And the requirements are far less than you might imagine. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if most PACs could pull it off -- given some of the organizations I've seen do so in the past. And any kind of charitable organization would be a shoo-in. For sure you don't need to express believe in any kind of diety(s).
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I was just teaching my son who just discovered music about playing on top of the beat vs. behind, etc.
The force is strong with this one!!! An advanced topic for a youngster - does your son play an instrument, or is he just listening?
Not a complaint, but in reality this just isn't possible.
You could be right.
:(
"
"Conservative lurkers, c'mon in! Just don't be jerks. We'll try not to be, too"
Not a complaint, but in reality this just isn't possible. The subjects are too polarized, it's too easy to lose perspective. Both sides. It is the nature of the Trump age,anyone conservative agrees with enough of his policies to be branded with both his policies and his psychopathy.
The hatred for those is so understandable as to make defending the smaller pieces not worthwhile.
I am just hoping we get to have midterm elections.
"
TP: Thanks, and back at you.
russell: a day or two late and therefore considerably out of the pocket so to speak, but I’ve appreciated your insights into Ringo (there was a past conversation I recall). I was just teaching my son who just discovered music about playing on top of the beat vs. behind, etc. He listened because it was on one of “his” songs and he really liked the song and didn’t know why that particular part had such good energy.
I’m listening to “Love” for the first time (came with a bunch of CD’s from an estate sale) on my “new” high-end vintage CD player on a good system. I know it’s probably sacrilegious but I rather like the mix.
"
“ bookmarked Ian Welch's blog some years ago, but rarely visit. He is not my kind of lefty. He makes my head hurt.”
I fall about halfway between him and the LGM lefties. They both irritate me in different ways. But you learn things from reading all sorts.
On the issue, I don’t think he is saying that we should exist in a strictly cash economy and if he did say that this would be dumb. But I think he is pointing to a new way for governments to crack down on dissent. Not that he is the first by any means.
"
Just to be clear, my point wasn't about using cryptocurrency, it was about the fact that a government has to control transactions for a number of reasons that are necessary and working with my student about how the EU is looking at controlling cryptocurrency suggests you are going to have the ways to control that will end up like Chekhov's gun.
"
I don't think it is realistic to expect nations to simply stay with cash money.
These days the vast majority of currency transactions are electronic. I doubt anyone (outside the looney far right, and not most even there) expect or want that to change. Cash (paper) can be handy for small transactions. But nobody uses it much for legal transactions over $100.
But crypto is a whole different deal. It's great for illegal transactions, or for evading taxes. And, if you get in early, it's an effective "bigger idiot" vehicle. But legitimate uses? No so much.
It may be possible to regulate it to the point that it's useful. But I haven't seen any even halfway plausible ideas for doing so.
"
I hadn't seen or didn't remember Ian Welch. The information about Hüseyin Doğru (love the diacritics!) is interesting, but I'm working online with a masters student who is researching how cryptocurrency legislation should be handled and Welch is not really thinking why the German government can do what it can. Like Donald, I don't know anything about the case, but I don't think it is realistic to expect nations to simply stay with cash money. One thing I like about Japan is that it is much more a cash economy than what Germany sounds like, but it's not clear to me if he wants Germany to be more like Japan, which I guess he imagines would clear up the problem, or wants the Government to put some guardrails because that will deal with the problem? It's not really clear.
Here's a website where Hüseyin Doğru is discussing it
https://diem25.org/en/author/huseyin-dogru/
But I can't get the page to load.
"
Donald,
I should say I know nothing of Hüseyin Doğru— never heard of him before.
Wasn't he Kim Jong Il's caddy when he shot 36 under par in one round of golf?
Juche!
I bookmarked Ian Welch's blog some years ago, but rarely visit. He is not my kind of lefty. He makes my head hurt.
"
bc: Lastly, in order to attract conservatives, IMHO, you have to at least want to hear another point of view.
Good to see you again, bc!
Put me down as definitely wanting to hear "another point of view" on any topic at all. Also put me down as willing to challenge any point of view -- time permitting, and if I feel like it.
Is it possible that, unlike you, some conservatives find it frustrating to be challenged when they set forth their "point of view" on ObWi? I mean, "hearing" and "accepting" are different things. Any posted comment is "heard" in a literal(-ish) sense. If it elicits no response, would that be less, or more, frustrating than a bunch of replies "refuting" it?
Hoping you pop up more often, and bring friends with you:)
--TP
"
I was a sucker for HP calculators and ending up buying five different ones.
"
Eva Marie Saint, currently the oldest living Oscar winner, is still kicking it at 101.
"
Richards and Willie Nelson seem to have inherited the mantle of the Betty White jokes. "Shouldn't someone be worrying about the kind of world our kids will leave for Keith and Willie?"
"
From back when HP made quality stuff, not just crappy printers.
Sometime while I was in graduate school (Texas, 1976-78) I went to one of HP's sales pitches for their engineering calculators. At one point the salesman asked if there were any petroleum engineering students in the crowd and got several hands up. "You, my friends, will someday soon be walking along a catwalk and drop your calculator, watch it bounce twice, go over the edge, and fall 20 feet to the ground. What will you have if that's a Texas Instruments calculator? Pieces." Then he wound up and throw the HP calculator hard enough to bounce it off the back wall. "With an HP, you'll just yell down and ask your buddy to pick up your calculator."
On “Plus ça change…”
Was historical iconoclasm maybe just an occasional outburst of Neanderthal ancestry?
On “An open thread on July 4th”
Be careful not to get confused with the Rotary Club.
I can't deny a certain nostalgia for these devices either.
"
Keith Richards has been undead since the '80s. He's keeping that phylactery safe and hidden.
That or Brian Jones gave him a ring for his birthday back in 1969.
Death by drowning...hmmm...
"
...there may be quite a few rotary phone fans waiting for a spiritual home!
You can take my rotary phone after you pull my cold, dead finger out of the dialer!
"
I just saw a video clip from Ringo's 85th birthday party. He's four years older than Keith Richards, but looks 20 years younger :^)
"
Texas Instruments calculators?
HP or GTFO.
From back when HP made quality stuff, not just crappy printers.
On “Plus ça change…”
I've been reading about Neanderthals for the escapism. One difference between them and homo sapiens is the lack of visual art and, with a very notable exception, the apparent lack of sites for religious rituals.
Lack of a site doesn't mean there was no religion and no ceremonies, of course, and Neanderthals did make aesthetic designs both in the form of jewelry (shell necklaces) and in marks on some of their tools--though the marks are just straight lines in limited patterns.
Still there seems to be a difference in mind. What this means, I don't know.
On “An open thread on July 4th”
I do like the idea of a thousand (liberal) churches blooming!
But the point of a church endorsing candidates/parties is that its congregants then vote, as a bloc, as their church tells them to vote.
The Sacred Assembly of the Mechanical Pencil probably doesn't have enough adherents to constitute a voting bloc.
Perhaps a "Sacred Assembly of Really Cool Mechanical Tools No Longer in General Use"? You could get the self-propelling pencil folks, and the people who still love their Texas Instruments calculators, their slide rules, and anyone who still knows what a protractor is, and there may be quite a few rotary phone fans waiting for a spiritual home!
"
In the other hand, getting yourself officially designated as a church is pretty straightforward.
John Oliver did.
But I expect that the IRS (and SCOTUS) will come up with loopholes to the loopholes, although not necessarily of the blatant 'Islam is not a religion' kind that some Kristians(TM) and GOPsters try to push.
"
Russell is a lot like Hilzoy
Yikes! Are you sure you have the right (R)russell?
You are very kind, bc. I appreciate this, although I doubt I live up to it.
If this is a suggestion that we should have political shibboleths for commentators, I'm against it.
Pretty much my feeling also. And I think the suggestion of "just don't engage" is also fine. I know there are certain topics that I'm just not interested in discussing.
The folks that we exclude from here tend to be folks (on either - or any - side of the fence) who are rude or offensive, in whatever way. And we generally give folks ample warning before they get bumped - most of the folks that have been banned have shown that they simply refuse to stop doing whatever it is we've asked them (usually repeatedly) to stop doing.
I'm not sure anyone has been banned simply for their opinion, per se.
Conservative lurkers, c'mon in! Just don't be jerks. We'll try not to be, too.
"
I just started the Sacred Assembly of the Mechanical Pencil. We meet at 3:30 AM every third Wednesday if anyone is interested. One stipulation is that you have to be able to do The Worm.
"
The headline leaves out the even more scandalous part: ONLY churches, not other tax exempt entities. Those still have to obey the rule of either partisan or tax exempt but not both at the same time.
In the other hand, getting yourself officially designated as a church is pretty straightforward. And the requirements are far less than you might imagine. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if most PACs could pull it off -- given some of the organizations I've seen do so in the past. And any kind of charitable organization would be a shoo-in. For sure you don't need to express believe in any kind of diety(s).
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