It must be incredibly frustrating for Dmitriev. He keeps putting out ever more outrageous demands, in the hopes that Witkoff will say No, so he can blame the US for negotiations failing. But Witkoff keeps giving him everything he asks and more. Over and over. The draft plan differs from Russia's maximal demands only in giving Russia even more.
About all that's left is Russia demanding massive reparations from Ukraine. Watching this space....
Also, not quite a punk band, but The Great Heathen Army is an Amon Amarth album (and song) title - not punk, but rather viking themed melodic death metal.
CharlesWT - The UK’s foreign-born population was 4.2% in 1951, 8.3% in 2001, and 16% in 2021.
I'm not taking issue with you here, CharlesWT, but I am going to note, for the sake of information literacy, that the Wiki entry you cite has some problems with the data that bear scrutiny.
The 1951 and 2001 data come from one data source and the 2021 data from another. The first set counts "foreign born" population, and the last one counts "migrants." Those two things are defined in the sources that are being cited, but a closer look at those shows that "foreign born" and "migrant" are not at all the same things, and the way that the Wiki article is written, they never foreground any difference.
If you chase the source for the earlier dates, you will find that, for example, in 1971 about a third of the "foreign born" population came from families where one or both parents were born in the UK.
That would mean that for the purposes of the data from 1971, Boris Johnson would count as "foreign born," but had he been born in 2017, he would not have counted for the table because he would not be considered a "migrant," since his parents were only abroad in the US temporarily while his father was attending university there.
I suspect that there are a lot of incongruities and methodological problems in that article, but I don't expect that the average reader - even one with an undergraduate degree - would have the habits of mind to check for, or reflect on, the impacts of such problems on the conclusions being drawn from them.
This is why teaching information literacy is so challenging, and why people get impatient with academics. To paraphrase The Who, the simple things we see are all complicated, and most of us just want to get our washing done.
Substitute your lies for fact I can see right through your plastic mac I look all white, but my dad was black My fine looking suit is really made out of sack
I’ll bet that in the last 1000 years England has seen more immigration than in the previous 500,000,000 years.
Britain was almost entirely depopulated by the end of the last glacial maxima 22,000 years ago. All of Scotland and Ireland were under the ice. Southern England was inhospitable tundra. At least on a percentage basis, the immigration after the ice started to retreat was probably larger than the last 1,000 years.
Percentage wise, America saw way more immigration in the 1700s than in the 19th century. Also way more in the 19th century than in the 20th century. Certainly there were peaks and valleys. And the raw numbers climbed, but as a percentage of the (non-Native American) population? No.
I suspect that we also saw more in many decades of the 20th century than we have so far in either decade in the 21st century. The usual peaks and valleys may have impacted what we've seen this century so far. But by now, our population is just too big for the percentages to get that high.
There was a ten-year period during the Blair government England had more immigration than during the previous thousand years.
Keep those context free facts coming Charles! There were probably as many, if not more who came from 1950-60. However, at that time, they were called citizens of the Empire, not immigrants.
I'm terrified of the future. The thought of millions of people dying at borders they aren't allowed to cross--dystopia is here already and science fiction nightmares are coming true.
Meanwhile the dogs are out from under the coffee table but I got a frantic phone call about a cat. The story is that she was seen by various people laying on the pavement and was there all night--supposedly was hit by a car, but she doesn't have any visible injuries. She spent the night at the neighbors' where she ate and was up walking around. Today she is at the sanctuary but not eating, not drinking, not moving. The lady who runs the sanctuary is trying to get her into a vet. She's a skinny little thing and, given the rain and the cold, she might have been hyperthermic and is just recovering. I'm bummed about it.
It is *SO* obnoxious seeing obviously AI-produced images, and having the obsessive need to count fingers just to suppress the "My name is Inigo Montoya" reflex.
But check the soil first. I would not eat anything grown in our little backyard garden* - at least not without changing the top 1 m of earth first. Everytime anything is done on this building, the materials are stored there and I take it as a given that some nasty stuff seeped into the soil on more than one occasion in the last half century we have lived there.
*the rental flats on the raised ground floor have one (with stairs from the balcony leading down to it).
CharlesWT - There was a ten-year period during the Blair government England had more immigration than during the previous thousand years.
We ain't seen nothing yet. Climate inaction is going to redraw a whole lot of boundaries. And people are either going to be allowed to immigrate or we are going to have an unfathomable loss of life in many places.
I don't even want to think about the effect on other creatures and on flora.
It seems that backlash against immigrants is a human nature thing that happens everywhere. And also it seems that political parties historically reformist, humane, and focused on public interest will throw someone under the bus to pander to the rightwing.
Meanwhile we are under siege. Horrible, terrifying noises from above. Thunks and bumps and the interminable whine of machinery. The dogs are crouching under the coffee table.
Banknotes stuffed in a mattress is looking better and better.
Works right up to the moment that serious debasement of the currency (aka inflation) sets in. Which, the idiots at the top of this administration being how they are, seems a distinct possibility.
Might be better to put your money into reconfiguring your back yard (if you have one) into a big vegetable garden.
lj, I suppose it depends a lot on the behavior of the companies one is familiar with. I've certainly seen (and worked for) some that practice "devil take the hindmost" capitalism.
But I've also worked for companies which thought being a good person and a good citizen was important. And seen a lot more of them. Plus, of course, their owners and managers were bright enough to realize that their people were what kept the whole thing running.
And they survive by doing capitalism right. Not “right” as a lot of economists seem define it. They take care of their customers and they take care of their people. Without screwing over either in pursuit of a tiny fraction of a percent better numbers. And their executives don’t make tens (or hundreds) of thousands of times as much as their average employees.
I dunno, this sounds like that AI slop that I get all the time on facebook.
The CEO looked out the window and thought about his customers: all the athletes who actually cared about the planet they trained on. The company's mission statement, which prominently featured the word "sustainability," sounded like a cheap lie given the audit results. The boardroom fell silent waiting for his decision...
cf. Marx General Law of Capitalist Accumulation
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It must be incredibly frustrating for Dmitriev. He keeps putting out ever more outrageous demands, in the hopes that Witkoff will say No, so he can blame the US for negotiations failing. But Witkoff keeps giving him everything he asks and more. Over and over. The draft plan differs from Russia's maximal demands only in giving Russia even more.
About all that's left is Russia demanding mas
sivereparations from Ukraine. Watching this space....On “Shabana burns the cakes”
London’s foreign-born population is 41%.
And the percentage of foreign born residents in New York City over the years would be what?
If you're going to cherry pick numbers, gotta expect folks here will notice.
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Also, not quite a punk band, but The Great Heathen Army is an Amon Amarth album (and song) title - not punk, but rather viking themed melodic death metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK4MbGyCSXU
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CharlesWT - The UK’s foreign-born population was 4.2% in 1951, 8.3% in 2001, and 16% in 2021.
I'm not taking issue with you here, CharlesWT, but I am going to note, for the sake of information literacy, that the Wiki entry you cite has some problems with the data that bear scrutiny.
The 1951 and 2001 data come from one data source and the 2021 data from another. The first set counts "foreign born" population, and the last one counts "migrants." Those two things are defined in the sources that are being cited, but a closer look at those shows that "foreign born" and "migrant" are not at all the same things, and the way that the Wiki article is written, they never foreground any difference.
If you chase the source for the earlier dates, you will find that, for example, in 1971 about a third of the "foreign born" population came from families where one or both parents were born in the UK.
That would mean that for the purposes of the data from 1971, Boris Johnson would count as "foreign born," but had he been born in 2017, he would not have counted for the table because he would not be considered a "migrant," since his parents were only abroad in the US temporarily while his father was attending university there.
I suspect that there are a lot of incongruities and methodological problems in that article, but I don't expect that the average reader - even one with an undergraduate degree - would have the habits of mind to check for, or reflect on, the impacts of such problems on the conclusions being drawn from them.
This is why teaching information literacy is so challenging, and why people get impatient with academics. To paraphrase The Who, the simple things we see are all complicated, and most of us just want to get our washing done.
Substitute your lies for fact
I can see right through your plastic mac
I look all white, but my dad was black
My fine looking suit is really made out of sack
"
What is our current Open Thread? Where should one talk about the Russia-US 28 point plan giving Putin almost everything he wants?
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The UK's foreign-born population was 4.2% in 1951, 8.3% in 2001, and 16% in 2021.
Foreign-born population of the United Kingdom
London's foreign-born population is 41%.
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A percentage basis? You guys really know how to kill a joke.
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I’ll bet that in the last 1000 years England has seen more immigration than in the previous 500,000,000 years.
Britain was almost entirely depopulated by the end of the last glacial maxima 22,000 years ago. All of Scotland and Ireland were under the ice. Southern England was inhospitable tundra. At least on a percentage basis, the immigration after the ice started to retreat was probably larger than the last 1,000 years.
"
Percentage wise, America saw way more immigration in the 1700s than in the 19th century. Also way more in the 19th century than in the 20th century. Certainly there were peaks and valleys. And the raw numbers climbed, but as a percentage of the (non-Native American) population? No.
I suspect that we also saw more in many decades of the 20th century than we have so far in either decade in the 21st century. The usual peaks and valleys may have impacted what we've seen this century so far. But by now, our population is just too big for the percentages to get that high.
"
I'll bet that in the last 1000 years England has seen more immigration than in the previous 500,000,000 years.
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There was a ten-year period during the Blair government England had more immigration than during the previous thousand years.
How do you know? Before the 1905 Aliens Act there were effectively no restrictions on immigration.
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There was a ten-year period during the Blair government England had more immigration than during the previous thousand years.
Keep those context free facts coming Charles! There were probably as many, if not more who came from 1950-60. However, at that time, they were called citizens of the Empire, not immigrants.
"
I'm terrified of the future. The thought of millions of people dying at borders they aren't allowed to cross--dystopia is here already and science fiction nightmares are coming true.
Meanwhile the dogs are out from under the coffee table but I got a frantic phone call about a cat. The story is that she was seen by various people laying on the pavement and was there all night--supposedly was hit by a car, but she doesn't have any visible injuries. She spent the night at the neighbors' where she ate and was up walking around. Today she is at the sanctuary but not eating, not drinking, not moving. The lady who runs the sanctuary is trying to get her into a vet. She's a skinny little thing and, given the rain and the cold, she might have been hyperthermic and is just recovering. I'm bummed about it.
"
It is *SO* obnoxious seeing obviously AI-produced images, and having the obsessive need to count fingers just to suppress the "My name is Inigo Montoya" reflex.
"
AI everywhere. :)
On “Pop!”
But check the soil first. I would not eat anything grown in our little backyard garden* - at least not without changing the top 1 m of earth first. Everytime anything is done on this building, the materials are stored there and I take it as a given that some nasty stuff seeped into the soil on more than one occasion in the last half century we have lived there.
*the rental flats on the raised ground floor have one (with stairs from the balcony leading down to it).
On “Shabana burns the cakes”
CharlesWT - There was a ten-year period during the Blair government England had more immigration than during the previous thousand years.
We ain't seen nothing yet. Climate inaction is going to redraw a whole lot of boundaries. And people are either going to be allowed to immigrate or we are going to have an unfathomable loss of life in many places.
I don't even want to think about the effect on other creatures and on flora.
"
There was a ten-year period during the Blair government England had more immigration than during the previous thousand years.
"
It’s the guy blowing leaves off our roof.
Except he's not blowing leaves off, he's ripping off the shingles.
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It seems that backlash against immigrants is a human nature thing that happens everywhere. And also it seems that political parties historically reformist, humane, and focused on public interest will throw someone under the bus to pander to the rightwing.
Meanwhile we are under siege. Horrible, terrifying noises from above. Thunks and bumps and the interminable whine of machinery. The dogs are crouching under the coffee table.
It's the guy blowing leaves off our roof.
On “Pop!”
Banknotes stuffed in a mattress is looking better and better.
Works right up to the moment that serious debasement of the currency (aka inflation) sets in. Which, the idiots at the top of this administration being how they are, seems a distinct possibility.
Might be better to put your money into reconfiguring your back yard (if you have one) into a big vegetable garden.
"
lj, I suppose it depends a lot on the behavior of the companies one is familiar with. I've certainly seen (and worked for) some that practice "devil take the hindmost" capitalism.
But I've also worked for companies which thought being a good person and a good citizen was important. And seen a lot more of them. Plus, of course, their owners and managers were bright enough to realize that their people were what kept the whole thing running.
"
As usual, the stock market is driven by competing motives: greed and fear.
Banknotes stuffed in a mattress is looking better and better.
Or perhaps Giant Stone Wheels.
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Two observations.
These guys have enough money invested that they can remain solvent longer than the market can remain rational.
And the fact that this is an AI bubble makes me wonder if the valuations are being generated by an LLM hallucination as well...
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And they survive by doing capitalism right. Not “right” as a lot of economists seem define it. They take care of their customers and they take care of their people. Without screwing over either in pursuit of a tiny fraction of a percent better numbers. And their executives don’t make tens (or hundreds) of thousands of times as much as their average employees.
I dunno, this sounds like that AI slop that I get all the time on facebook.
The CEO looked out the window and thought about his customers: all the athletes who actually cared about the planet they trained on. The company's mission statement, which prominently featured the word "sustainability," sounded like a cheap lie given the audit results. The boardroom fell silent waiting for his decision...
cf. Marx General Law of Capitalist Accumulation
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