Any guess (other than Africa being outside their area of study) why Ethiopia isn’t included in the “never colonized” group?
Over about 50 years, Italy claimed it as colonial property and significant numbers of Italians settled there. (See, Italian East Africa.) Post-WW2, it went through much the same sort of protectorate process that other European colonial holdings in Africa did, eventually gaining independence. Sorting out all the borders, many influenced by Italian colonial status, didn't get fully sorted out until the 1990s.
This is slightly related, not really enough for a post, but in regards to Tony noting the belief that Christians have a monopoly on decency, there was this Brooks and Capehart segment on the PBS newshour.
https://youtu.be/a2a7_mGi3yA?si=_we14pUU6ZV3FDgb
Brooks' had some audio difficulties, so it was mostly Capehart, but before his mike went out, he had this observation
And I have long thought, if Americans see deportations of respectable families, they will finally rebel against this regime, and not just the progressives and not just Democrats, but normal people who are like, what the heck is going on here? And so that's where we're headed.
I'm hoping that the implication that Progressives and Democrats don't count as normal people had someone in the soundbooth say 'fuck him' and shut off his mic.
Thank you nous. The NYT "transcript" is a totally unformatted wall of text. You have to figure out from context who is speaking any given sentence.
I've been aware of both Talarico and Crockett for a while now. I like them both, and one reason I'm glad I don't live in Texas is that I don't have to chose between them in the primary.
Talarico's Christian schtick (not disparaging it; just can't think of a better word) may be exactly what's needed to win a general election in Texas -- or just what's needed to raise false hopes again. I repeat what I've often said before: I'm done chasing "electability", and anyway Texas Dems ought to be better judges of it than I am in this case.
I have a couple of reservations about explicit appeals to Christianity as a political strategy. First, it reinforces the lamentably wide-spread view that Christians have some sort of monopoly on decency. Second, I worry that Christ-like impulses like "judge not", and "turn the other cheek", and forgiveness of sins, may be impediments to the deMAGAfication the US sorely needs. But I absolutely accept that a Christian like Talarico is better able to weaken the support that Old Testament Christians have garnered from voters who think of themselves as devotees of Jesus.
The Klein shows are available on NYT, if someone has a gift link, I'll add it to the post.
For youtube stuff, click on the description just below and at the bottom of that, you'll get a computer generated transcript. I've occasionally copied the whole transcript and then asked Gemini to format it so I can read it, though that is mostly with japanese stuff.
I assume that the absence of Tibet is related to transitivity, in that Tibet is currently controlled by China so on a map that indicates current borders, it would be inside of China, which was partially controlled by Europe.
That also accounts for the grouping of the Koreas with Japan. Korea was a colony of Japan, which was never colonized by Europe, so gets the same color as japan.
can someone point to a transcript? I don't subscribe to the NYT but would be interested in reading. unfortunately I don't have time to watch the podcast.
People I love, respect and value keep sending me podcasts, videos etc which often last more than an hour. I feel like I absolutely cannot commit that kind of time (or even half that time) to something I know nothing about, no matter the recommender. That's why I am incredibly grateful to anything that releases transcripts. I am a really fast reader, and take in information much more easily by means of text!
First impression: Fascinating that Japan is grouped with North Korea as well as South. But Thailand? Where did that come from?
OK, I look at the key and get a glimmer. But it still seems pretty daft. Just for openers, it utterly ignores the realities of anything but current national boundaries.
For example, Tibet was never colonized, controlled, or influenced by Europe. And not part of China until well after European influence was being eradicated in the PRC. For that matter, all of Russia** east of the Urals should be "colonized by Europe", not part of Europe. Just like the Stans in central Asia.
** For that matter, a case could be made that even European Russia qualifies as "partial European influence" -- the cultural differences from the rest of Europe are pretty stark.
That really shows world domination clearly. And not coincidentally, many people are leaving those colonized parts of the world for because of the difficult living conditions.
I have been noticing incidents of cultural transfer possible because of the Internet. Have you seen/heard "Jerusalema?" It started with a South African musician using European musical instruments but his own language and music traditions who wrote a song about a Middle Eastern religion. He produced a video of people dancing in the style of his cultural background which because a global phenomenon of people doing watered down versions of the dance. The song is simple, addictive, and emotionally resonate, full of yearning. It is notable how much better the dancers are in the African videos!
Another example is Music for Change, tho they focus on songs that originate in the US, mostly.
If we are converging globally, I hope some of the better aspects of other cultures influence us rather than just us influencing them. I mean values, not just food and music.
indeed. i have the same problem with podcasts. i really want to have more of them to listen to, but i'm stuck with only three* because every other one i've tried has a speaker who can't get to the point.
and podcasts / YT channels with more than one person are just torture - it seems like most of them are only there to make stupid jokes with each other.
i need a certain level of information density: not too low (most podcasts / channels) and not too high (i need to be able to follow it while devoting some attention to driving).
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The History Of The English Language
Strong Songs
Sound Opinions - even though it's two people, they have the ability to stick to the topic and not make it all about their cute nervous joking
wonkie, tell me about it. Unfortunately, when I find something I think is interesting to post, if it is at all timely, those are the kinds of things that I find have to cite. It also is shitty because I want to be careful about stating what people are saying, but the whole structure makes that difficult if you want to be careful. I'll try and have the video start at the key point, but it is a pain.
I think aging has affected my attention span. I CANNOT listen to videos. It seems like no one has the skill of getting concisely to the point. I can't tolerate rambling, circling the point without landing the plane, or a long buildup of "context" that I already know. A video presentation should be like a persuasive essay: the thesis should be stated clearly at the outset.
Maybe this is what Bannon meant when he advised King Lear Jet to flood the zone with shit.
The cheapest way to dye the shirts brown.
Someone needs to update this classic:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Hubert_Lanzinger_Der_Bannertr%C3%A4ger_(The_Standard_bearer)_Oil_on_plywood_ca_1934-36_Adolf_Hitler_as_knight_Denazified_hole_in_Hitler%27s_face_scrathes_US_Army_Center_of_Military_History_USHMM_No_known_copyright_restrictions_2450324-2396x2.jpg
Caveat: His Orangeness has the stature of neither the Austrian painter nor the Italian he tries to imitate in public. He is just another case of history repeating itself as a farce (or Grand Guignol just with less taste and brains). But cheap imitations can be lethal too.
I still think His Orangeness would be a better (ridiculous) fit for the painting above
Another podcast, unfortunately, with only the youtube computer generated transcript.
https://youtu.be/eOYf0qo9Mco?si=hh5fFoopjfIifald
I like the pair who do this, though it is interesting that they are a lot more negative on the conditions that China is facing then their guest (Michal Meidan, head of China Energy Research at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies), is. She doesn't think it as big a speed bump as they do which I agree with, so she is obviously correct.
There's a transcript at the NYT, which is what I used.
I'm always amazed at the people I know who post seven YT vids and two podcasts a day from some left-wing political influencer - many close to the same age as my students. Most of those are haphazardly arranged and not very cohesive, and more noise than signal.
I want information, and I want it to be accessible, not padded out for good engagement numbers and juiced for the outrage algorithm.
At least with a transcript I can skim and find the things that are worthwhile, and then use that to anchor my further reading.
nous, just a quick note in case you didn't know, you can pull a computer generated transcript off of youtube. I've been listening to this sort of stuff while I'm exercising, I certainly understand not wanting to waste time. I'll go back and do that if there is a point I want to double check, copying it and dropping it into bbedit, though the formatting makes it tough sledding to read the whole thing. It's ironic that while at the same time, instagram and tik-tok are trying to give us these concentrated bursts of info, it's simultaneously accompanied by the podcasts that take 15 minutes of content and stretch it to an hour.
I agree with you about Klein, especially about him talking too much. He seems to be angling to be this generation's Broder, whether he realizes it or not.
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On “An interesting map”
Any guess (other than Africa being outside their area of study) why Ethiopia isn’t included in the “never colonized” group?
Over about 50 years, Italy claimed it as colonial property and significant numbers of Italians settled there. (See, Italian East Africa.) Post-WW2, it went through much the same sort of protectorate process that other European colonial holdings in Africa did, eventually gaining independence. Sorting out all the borders, many influenced by Italian colonial status, didn't get fully sorted out until the 1990s.
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Any guess (other than Africa being outside their area of study) why Ethiopia isn't included in the "never colonized" group?
On “Talarico”
This is slightly related, not really enough for a post, but in regards to Tony noting the belief that Christians have a monopoly on decency, there was this Brooks and Capehart segment on the PBS newshour.
https://youtu.be/a2a7_mGi3yA?si=_we14pUU6ZV3FDgb
Brooks' had some audio difficulties, so it was mostly Capehart, but before his mike went out, he had this observation
And I have long thought, if Americans see deportations of respectable families, they will finally rebel against this regime, and not just the progressives and not just Democrats, but normal people who are like, what the heck is going on here? And so that's where we're headed.
I'm hoping that the implication that Progressives and Democrats don't count as normal people had someone in the soundbooth say 'fuck him' and shut off his mic.
"
This seems to be a pretty reasonable (if edited) and readable transcript of the Talarico interview. Gift link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-james-talarico.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FFA.H4qd.fA8B5EQEiib4&smid=url-share
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Thank you nous. The NYT "transcript" is a totally unformatted wall of text. You have to figure out from context who is speaking any given sentence.
I've been aware of both Talarico and Crockett for a while now. I like them both, and one reason I'm glad I don't live in Texas is that I don't have to chose between them in the primary.
Talarico's Christian schtick (not disparaging it; just can't think of a better word) may be exactly what's needed to win a general election in Texas -- or just what's needed to raise false hopes again. I repeat what I've often said before: I'm done chasing "electability", and anyway Texas Dems ought to be better judges of it than I am in this case.
I have a couple of reservations about explicit appeals to Christianity as a political strategy. First, it reinforces the lamentably wide-spread view that Christians have some sort of monopoly on decency. Second, I worry that Christ-like impulses like "judge not", and "turn the other cheek", and forgiveness of sins, may be impediments to the deMAGAfication the US sorely needs. But I absolutely accept that a Christian like Talarico is better able to weaken the support that Old Testament Christians have garnered from voters who think of themselves as devotees of Jesus.
--TP
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nous, ooo, nice catch! Thanks!
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If you don't have access to the NYTimes, you can find a transcript here:
https://podscripts.co/podcasts/the-ezra-klein-show/can-james-talarico-reclaim-christianity-for-the-left
...scroll down.
"
The Klein shows are available on NYT, if someone has a gift link, I'll add it to the post.
For youtube stuff, click on the description just below and at the bottom of that, you'll get a computer generated transcript. I've occasionally copied the whole transcript and then asked Gemini to format it so I can read it, though that is mostly with japanese stuff.
On “An interesting map”
I assume that the absence of Tibet is related to transitivity, in that Tibet is currently controlled by China so on a map that indicates current borders, it would be inside of China, which was partially controlled by Europe.
That also accounts for the grouping of the Koreas with Japan. Korea was a colony of Japan, which was never colonized by Europe, so gets the same color as japan.
On “Talarico”
can someone point to a transcript? I don't subscribe to the NYT but would be interested in reading. unfortunately I don't have time to watch the podcast.
On “An interesting map”
Note to Sino-Platonic Papers: wj would like to be one of your outside readers for peer review. He has methodology questions. Hit him up.
On “Talarico”
People I love, respect and value keep sending me podcasts, videos etc which often last more than an hour. I feel like I absolutely cannot commit that kind of time (or even half that time) to something I know nothing about, no matter the recommender. That's why I am incredibly grateful to anything that releases transcripts. I am a really fast reader, and take in information much more easily by means of text!
On “An interesting map”
First impression: Fascinating that Japan is grouped with North Korea as well as South. But Thailand? Where did that come from?
OK, I look at the key and get a glimmer. But it still seems pretty daft. Just for openers, it utterly ignores the realities of anything but current national boundaries.
For example, Tibet was never colonized, controlled, or influenced by Europe. And not part of China until well after European influence was being eradicated in the PRC. For that matter, all of Russia** east of the Urals should be "colonized by Europe", not part of Europe. Just like the Stans in central Asia.
** For that matter, a case could be made that even European Russia qualifies as "partial European influence" -- the cultural differences from the rest of Europe are pretty stark.
"
That really shows world domination clearly. And not coincidentally, many people are leaving those colonized parts of the world for because of the difficult living conditions.
I have been noticing incidents of cultural transfer possible because of the Internet. Have you seen/heard "Jerusalema?" It started with a South African musician using European musical instruments but his own language and music traditions who wrote a song about a Middle Eastern religion. He produced a video of people dancing in the style of his cultural background which because a global phenomenon of people doing watered down versions of the dance. The song is simple, addictive, and emotionally resonate, full of yearning. It is notable how much better the dancers are in the African videos!
Another example is Music for Change, tho they focus on songs that originate in the US, mostly.
If we are converging globally, I hope some of the better aspects of other cultures influence us rather than just us influencing them. I mean values, not just food and music.
On “Talarico”
LJ, I was not complaining about you or your posts! I appreciate you watching stuff so I don't have to! And I appreciate you making posts.
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indeed. i have the same problem with podcasts. i really want to have more of them to listen to, but i'm stuck with only three* because every other one i've tried has a speaker who can't get to the point.
and podcasts / YT channels with more than one person are just torture - it seems like most of them are only there to make stupid jokes with each other.
i need a certain level of information density: not too low (most podcasts / channels) and not too high (i need to be able to follow it while devoting some attention to driving).
*
The History Of The English Language
Strong Songs
Sound Opinions - even though it's two people, they have the ability to stick to the topic and not make it all about their cute nervous joking
"
wonkie, tell me about it. Unfortunately, when I find something I think is interesting to post, if it is at all timely, those are the kinds of things that I find have to cite. It also is shitty because I want to be careful about stating what people are saying, but the whole structure makes that difficult if you want to be careful. I'll try and have the video start at the key point, but it is a pain.
"
I think aging has affected my attention span. I CANNOT listen to videos. It seems like no one has the skill of getting concisely to the point. I can't tolerate rambling, circling the point without landing the plane, or a long buildup of "context" that I already know. A video presentation should be like a persuasive essay: the thesis should be stated clearly at the outset.
On “An open thread”
Maybe this is what Bannon meant when he advised King Lear Jet to flood the zone with shit.
The cheapest way to dye the shirts brown.
Someone needs to update this classic:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Hubert_Lanzinger_Der_Bannertr%C3%A4ger_(The_Standard_bearer)_Oil_on_plywood_ca_1934-36_Adolf_Hitler_as_knight_Denazified_hole_in_Hitler%27s_face_scrathes_US_Army_Center_of_Military_History_USHMM_No_known_copyright_restrictions_2450324-2396x2.jpg
Caveat: His Orangeness has the stature of neither the Austrian painter nor the Italian he tries to imitate in public. He is just another case of history repeating itself as a farce (or Grand Guignol just with less taste and brains). But cheap imitations can be lethal too.
I still think His Orangeness would be a better (ridiculous) fit for the painting above
On “Talarico”
Or make them into giant house flies! Or cartoon penguins! So fun...
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We know. You can also have them speaking to each other naked.
"
At least with a transcript I can skim and find the things that are worthwhile, and then use that to anchor my further reading.
I just let Grok serve it up for me. :)
Progressive Christianity vs. Christian Nationalism
On “¿Qué quieres decir cuando dices China, por favor?”
Another podcast, unfortunately, with only the youtube computer generated transcript.
https://youtu.be/eOYf0qo9Mco?si=hh5fFoopjfIifald
I like the pair who do this, though it is interesting that they are a lot more negative on the conditions that China is facing then their guest (Michal Meidan, head of China Energy Research at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies), is. She doesn't think it as big a speed bump as they do which I agree with, so she is obviously correct.
On “Talarico”
There's a transcript at the NYT, which is what I used.
I'm always amazed at the people I know who post seven YT vids and two podcasts a day from some left-wing political influencer - many close to the same age as my students. Most of those are haphazardly arranged and not very cohesive, and more noise than signal.
I want information, and I want it to be accessible, not padded out for good engagement numbers and juiced for the outrage algorithm.
At least with a transcript I can skim and find the things that are worthwhile, and then use that to anchor my further reading.
"
nous, just a quick note in case you didn't know, you can pull a computer generated transcript off of youtube. I've been listening to this sort of stuff while I'm exercising, I certainly understand not wanting to waste time. I'll go back and do that if there is a point I want to double check, copying it and dropping it into bbedit, though the formatting makes it tough sledding to read the whole thing. It's ironic that while at the same time, instagram and tik-tok are trying to give us these concentrated bursts of info, it's simultaneously accompanied by the podcasts that take 15 minutes of content and stretch it to an hour.
I agree with you about Klein, especially about him talking too much. He seems to be angling to be this generation's Broder, whether he realizes it or not.
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